I get Wigan has injuries. Cas had 2 monster players missing too. So if Wigan fans are happy losing 27 10 to Cas in their own back yard then so be it. Let them have their "happiness" . Personally I'm chuffed with our defence, game management and I agree with printer, Chase isn't needed but is an added luxury. Attitude huge for our next game.

I don't deny any of that, simply commenting on how I felt about the game.

Why you're trying to argue this is honestly so weird.

I said Cas only scored 2 tries more than us. That is a simple fact that even Yorkshire-educated folk can understand.

Look back. You did not say that. You said two "scores" not two "tries". In fact, Wigan would clearly have had to score more than two tries to overcome a 17 point margin, even if they were both converted. In fact, even if both tries were 8-point tries, another score would be required.

Call it 4 scores with Escare's goal kicking.

It's been quite a time since an all Yorkshire Grand Final.
Bring it on.

You spent the best part of our first wins blaming our opposition defense, now your belittled into word games



And also when I said wigg'n was spouting shhhhugar BD said he was embarrassed by suggesting we would be up there....... hey ho

Cas were easily the better team, We looked tired and clueless like we have for big parts of the past few weeks.

We had a decent amount of first choice pack (who were dominated easily)

It's fair to say we had a reserve back line but the pack is what gives the backs the platform.

Our pack was pathetic yet again but not taking away from Cas pack that dominated them.

our young lads in the back line deserve the packs pay, they were that much better.

looking forward to the rest of the season and some great tussles.

Agree totally!!!

McClorrum, Bateman, and Flanders weren't playing, that's half your first choice pack, isn't it? They'd have made a big difference to Wigan. I'd say that Wigan do need at least 3 quality props, though.

Well - i'm happy for any kind of win at the home of the champions. Over on Cas Forum all the other cas fans seem to by happy. Wigan fans on this thread are happy with a 27-10 loss because it was the beginning of the season and they had 9 players out. Loads of neutrals who watched the game on Sky were happy. John Wells was obviously happy and so were all the Leigh and Saints fans.

Happy, happy people.