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Quote: j.c "This particular WCC is probably a step to far for this wigan team but what ive seen of them this season,they have every chance of taking RL in this country to a completely different level from the saint of long,sculthorpe and cunningham etc'"



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On paper it should be a clear win for the Roosters, but I think Wane will have Wigan pumped up and ready for it. I don't expect a win, but I certainly don't think Wigan will be embarrassed.

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Taking the game to Sydney is a mistake.
They will be lucky to get the SFS half full.
The Roosters will virtually be the same again, Wigan will be minus some very good players.
The other anolmaly are the refs. If an Aussie ref, Ashley Klein apart, runs the game Wigan will get battered on the penalty count (like 12-2) and it could be a cricket score. That's happened before in Internationals and could very well happen again.
IL and SW need to think long and hard about this.
The game could lose money by being held in Sydney, it could be also be an awful night for Wigan and British Rugby League.
If Sonny Bill Williams is playing as well as the Roosters other stars then the DW will get over 20,000 in. It will make money.
We would have a SL ref who wouldn't spoil the game and get a great contest.
Only one venue makes any kind of sense to me and that's the DW.
(From someone who went to Brisbane in '94 too)

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Quote: Father Ted "Taking the game to Sydney is a mistake.'"

Why?

Quote: Father Ted "They will be lucky to get the SFS half full.'"

True it will be full.

Quote: Father Ted "The Roosters will virtually be the same again, Wigan will be minus some very good players.
The other anolmaly are the refs. If an Aussie ref, Ashley Klein apart, runs the game Wigan will get battered on the penalty count (like 12-2) and it could be a cricket score. That's happened before in Internationals and could very well happen again.'"

Well if the players learn and play by the rules then they won't get penalised. It really is that simple!

Quote: Father Ted "IL and SW need to think long and hard about this.
The game could lose money by being held in Sydney, it could be also be an awful night for Wigan and British Rugby League.'"

Why, if Wigan win, and there is no reason they may not why is that bad for British Rugby League?

Quote: Father Ted "If Sonny Bill Williams is playing as well as the Roosters other stars then the DW will get over 20,000 in. It will make money.'"
Well it isn't so they won't. Unless there is one of Mo & Ron Balls games on the DW will be empty
Quote: Father Ted "We would have a SL ref who wouldn't spoil the game and get a great contest.
Only one venue makes any kind of sense to me and that's the DW.
(From someone who went to Brisbane in '94 too)'"

It's never the referees who spoil the game. It's the players who don't know the rules or try to ignore them or bend them. They get penalised when caught and get away with it when not caught. If the whistle is going 20 to the dozen who is at fault? The coaches?, the groundsman?

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Quote: Father Ted "Taking the game to Sydney is a mistake.
They will be lucky to get the SFS half full.
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That will not be true.

SFS (i.e. Allianz Stadium) has a capacity of 45,500.

There will be 20,000 Sydney Roosters fans.
There will be 10,000 South Sydney fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 3,500 Manly fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 5,000 neutrals.

Total crowd: 38,500

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We'll see!

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Why would Manly/Souths fans go and support Wigan? I've found myself cheering for Leeds & Saints in some WCC games.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Why would Manly/Souths fans go and support Wigan? I've found myself cheering for Leeds & Saints in some WCC games.'"


Souths and Easts (Sydney Roosters) fans have an intense more than 100 year old rivalry that borders on the pathological. Russell Crowe has gone out of his way, since he bought South Sydney Rabbitohs, to stir up this rivalry.

Manly fans are a bit of a sour grapes crowd -- though most of them are too lazy to travel across the Sydney Harbour Bridge, unless it is an occasion when their team is in the Grand Final.

I think that the prospect of the Sydney Roosters winning a second Grand Final in 2014 -- an unprecedented, for the NRL, "back to back" win -- thanks in part to Sonny Bill Williams, will enrage the fans of South Sydney and Manly in particular. They will want to see the "tall poppies" known as the Sydney Roosters, brought down a notch.

I expect to see the Burgess brothers, Greg Inglis and Russell Crowe, in the crowd at Allianz Stadium to support Wigan.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "I expect to see the Burgess brothers, Greg Inglis and Russell Crowe, in the crowd at Allianz Stadium to support Wigan.'"

Following their four Grand Final defeats at the hands in the Leeds, I don’t remember seeing too many Saints players at the WCC cheering on the Rhino’s Australian opposition. Why on earth would Greg Inglis support an English team against an Australian one?

You clearly care about Rugby League and are a fan of the sport but you don’t half spout some nonsense at times

As for Wigan vs. Sydney, the Roosters will quite rightly be favourites (and strong favourites if it is played in Australia) but the great thing about sport is that it is not certain and plenty of English teams have won the WCC and not many of those did the double the year before

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "That will not be true.

SFS (i.e. Allianz Stadium) has a capacity of 45,500.

There will be 20,000 Sydney Roosters fans.
There will be 10,000 South Sydney fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 3,500 Manly fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 5,000 neutrals.

Total crowd

Plus every Brit living in Sydney. Even as a Leigh fan I support Wigan v the Aussies, went to the Wigan-St George game the other year, felt odd supporting Wigan in a Leigh top against my supported NRL team.

The silence from the smug NRL fans would be deafening if Wigan did it.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "That will not be true.

SFS (i.e. Allianz Stadium) has a capacity of 45,500.

There will be 20,000 Sydney Roosters fans.
There will be 10,000 South Sydney fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 3,500 Manly fans supporting Wigan.
There will be 5,000 neutrals.

Total crowd

As much as I would love that to be true, I seriously doubt that will happen.

Besides Manly barely brought that to Allianz in the first round of the Play offs against the Roosters, so I hardly doubt that many would come to see a game that doesn't involve them. The WCC is a bigger event in the UK than here, and to alot of people its nothing more than a glorified friendly. I honestly think we would do very well to get 25,000 for this but might even struggle to get 20,000.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Plus every Brit living in Sydney. Even as a Leigh fan I support Wigan v the Aussies, went to the Wigan-St George game the other year, felt odd supporting Wigan in a Leigh top against my supported NRL team.

The silence from the smug NRL fans would be deafening if Wigan did it.'"


You really think most Brits living here care about RL or in particularly English Super League?

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We'll see won't we?

Can't really be bothered with another pathetic VT argument that can't be proven either way.

There's a 93 page thread going on for that.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "I think that the prospect of the Sydney Roosters winning a second Grand Final in 2014 -- an unprecedented, for the NRL, "back to back" win'"


I didn't know RL in Australia only started in 1998.....

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Quote: jonny the leyther "We'll see won't we?

Can't really be bothered with another pathetic VT argument that can't be proven either way.

There's a 93 page thread going on for that.'"


Your the one who made argument that every Brit living in Sydney would go. Well considering there are loads of us Brits living in Sydney, we would more than fill the stadium on our own, so yes we will see.

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