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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: j.c "i have no problem understanding what go's on in the real world.
the few post that iv'e read of yours would suggest that you on the other hand truely believe that the clubs in the CC leagues and half a dozen posters on here wealed all the power in rugby league,that really is bizzare.'" I'm not trying to be condescending but I'm actually struggling to understand this post. Are you trying to suggest that I personally believe that fans are in charge of the game? If so that's one of the strangest things I have ever seen posted, there's no point in even trying to argue against that as it just makes no sense whatsoever.
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "
Russell Crowe might create a bit of interest.. but I don't think those Seppos will be deserting the superbowl to go along and watch it'"
I don't think anyone thinks they will and I don't think anyone has that as an aim.
If RL could get 5-10,0000 crowds for club games in the USA then it would be enough to pay players full time and give them a career option. No-one expects SL to get Premier League sized crowds, and likewise for the AMNRL.
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| Where will it fit in? there's no room for any more tournaments, a one-off game yes but a multi-team tournament?? Origin makes mid-season impossible, 4 nations and world cup makes end of season impossible.
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| Internationals need to go mid season where clubs release players. Just the way it is.
Put the game before club loyalties, the RLIF should grow a backbone and do what's right
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| Quote: Dico "Internationals need to go mid season where clubs release players. Just the way it is.
Put the game before club loyalties, the RLIF should grow a backbone and do what's right'"
I agree but Origin makes that impossible. SLE and NZ could do it, but not if we want Australia involved. Actually that could be quite good. NZ, England, France, Wales mid-season every year. End of season club Champions League. Play the Aussies in world cups and one-off games only.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "Where will it fit in? there's no room for any more tournaments, a one-off game yes but a multi-team tournament?? Origin makes mid-season impossible, 4 nations and world cup makes end of season impossible.'"
Easy, rearrange the international calendar. At the moment we have a year where no or very little international Rl is being played, 2012.
On a four year cycle after 2013 have the following events at the end of the season. (IIRC from the next WC it will be on a four year cycle, five years this time as not to avoid with other events in 2012.)
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| Here's how I think it would be run, each respective comp get's wound back to 22 games then they play their final series, two weeks later WCC tourny starts and then the 4 Nations/World Cup
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| Or... you could always take the 4N to america. TV deal would be peanuts but enough for RL.
Not saying we should do that but its an alternative idea, I think the US public could get behind countries better than clubs they'venever heard of. Have the Atlantic cup games played pre match
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| Quote: Ant80 "Here's how I think it would be run, each respective comp get's wound back to 22 games then they play their final series, two weeks later WCC tourny starts and then the 4 Nations/World Cup'"
A full 12 months rugby league. I like your thinking.
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| Quote: Starbug "The US has always struck me as the most obvious place to try to expand the game , the similarities to ' grid iron ' in the watchability from a fans point are there to be seen , the only problem is , if it did take off , they would very quickly change the rules , buy all the top talent and take the whole sport over
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What, like what happened with Oz?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "
If RL could get 5-10,0000 crowds for club games in the USA then it would be enough to pay players full time and give them a career option. '"
I think 3k crowds would do it.
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| The TV contracts the most important thing.
I read in the USA there's hundreds of sports trying to go pro with leagues all after the same spot really, even though, a tv contract to set up rugby league would be small fry to those companies
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| I think while the IRB continue to make great strides the key for RL to catch up is to crack America or China. I have no idea how RL would be able to crack China unless RL cracks America first. With an effort to do this RL could use it as an opportunity to transform how the game is structured.
First off, expand SLE to two conferences of 12, teams play those in their conf H&A, top four teams from each making a straight forward knock out P/Os for the SL title. Creating more places, creates more space for your Fax' and your Fev's as well as expansion clubs like Barca and Dublin. It also reduces the amount of matches players play. Also, makes more room for WCC. Yes there would be an overall drop in playing standards initially, but top end clubs would remain high and standards should raise over time. It could mean less TV money for clubs, but, personally, I think too many clubs are too reliant on Sky money for revenues (it would force them to do more) and if there is greater national and international presence there is no reason why we shouldn't get greater sums of money anyway, particularly with greater presnce in the US market. This also gives your Fev's et al a chance to prove they are competitive as businesses as well on-field even though they are small and questions raised as to whether they can ever be able to compete at the top end.
Then put in place a meaningful WCC challenge; NRL finalists, SL champs, CC champs and then two US rep sides; East (Stars), West (Stripes). Two round robins, playing in respective side of US (East or West), with winners playing in final at a venue in the middle; Denver, Vegas, Texas. Would have thought US TV$ would only really be involved if US compete. Part of $ could be put towards picking up players who miss out on NFL Draft to bolster strength, steer players away from NFL with contracts that include personal sponsorship and marketing deals or put into their governing body's structure.
After that have an annual 4N's without Oz, only play them at WC. 4N's between Eng, NZ, Wales, France, PNG. Where in world held dictates who gets automatic entry, others play for positions, like PNG/Wales have done. Euro/Oceania nations could play each other mid-season, Tour matches and final after WCC.
This could help towards RLIF board restructure; England, Wales, France, NZ, PNG, OZ, USA get two reps and Scots, Ireland, Samoa, Tonga, Canada etc get one. For example anyway. This moves away from Lewis having to fight against two ARL reps and one NZRL rep and is more inclusive of more nations. More Board members making key decisions also means less likelihood of corruption, as some may suggest we've seen with the 22 FIFA officials.
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| Quote: Chorlton RL "I think while the IRB continue to make great strides the key for RL to catch up is to crack America or China. I have no idea how RL would be able to crack China unless RL cracks America first. With an effort to do this RL could use it as an opportunity to transform how the game is structured.
First off, expand SLE to two conferences of 12, teams play those in their conf H&A, top four teams from each making a straight forward knock out P/Os for the SL title. Creating more places, creates more space for your Fax' and your Fev's as well as expansion clubs like Barca and Dublin. It also reduces the amount of matches players play. Also, makes more room for WCC. Yes there would be an overall drop in playing standards initially, but top end clubs would remain high and standards should raise over time. It could mean less TV money for clubs, but, personally, I think too many clubs are too reliant on Sky money for revenues (it would force them to do more) and if there is greater national and international presence there is no reason why we shouldn't get greater sums of money anyway, particularly with greater presnce in the US market. This also gives your Fev's et al a chance to prove they are competitive as businesses as well on-field even though they are small and questions raised as to whether they can ever be able to compete at the top end.
Then put in place a meaningful WCC challenge; NRL finalists, SL champs, CC champs and then two US rep sides; East (Stars), West (Stripes). Two round robins, playing in respective side of US (East or West), with winners playing in final at a venue in the middle; Denver, Vegas, Texas. Would have thought US TV$ would only really be involved if US compete. Part of $ could be put towards picking up players who miss out on NFL Draft to bolster strength, steer players away from NFL with contracts that include personal sponsorship and marketing deals or put into their governing body's structure.
After that have an annual 4N's without Oz, only play them at WC. 4N's between Eng, NZ, Wales, France, PNG. Where in world held dictates who gets automatic entry, others play for positions, like PNG/Wales have done. Euro/Oceania nations could play each other mid-season, Tour matches and final after WCC.
This could help towards RLIF board restructure; England, Wales, France, NZ, PNG, OZ, USA get two reps and Scots, Ireland, Samoa, Tonga, Canada etc get one. For example anyway. This moves away from Lewis having to fight against two ARL reps and one NZRL rep and is more inclusive of more nations. More Board members making key decisions also means less likelihood of corruption, as some may suggest we've seen with the 22 FIFA officials.'"
This will never happen. There isn't the money. Unfortunately it is a massive pipe-dream.
You need to be a hell of a lot more realistic.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "This will never happen. There isn't the money. Unfortunately it is a massive pipe-dream.
You need to be a hell of a lot more realistic.'"
Ah well, it was fun typing it up
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