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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "It would be more likely to bounce off Coley's chin tbf.
You don't think that was lucky for Leeds to win by scoring in the last minute? When they'd never had the lead up until then??'"
I think we kept going and got a winning try like a good team does. Wigan kept going like the good team they are but they made a mistake when it mattered. That isn't luck. That's down to them been out on their feet, not luck.
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| Quote: El Pac Carnegie "Ah so the conditions are a factor when it regards Wigan but not Leeds. I think I'm getting where your coming from. I mean Leeds didn't play in those exact same conditions and manage to defend their line for the 80 did they? Oh...'"
They probably wouldn't have if JP hadn't taken Tomkins head off.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "He didn't step Gleeson
Well if Wigan have a player on their roster (and a GB International at that) that will let an opposition player walk right over him, who is not running fast, or intending to go for the try line, or making any attempt to shift direction with his feet, then they deserve to lose in such a manner
Man, you are stinking from this one. I think the last time I got so angry after a team I don't even support lost was when Bradford were denied a try in the last minute of a game against Leigh in about 1993 which would have meant they would have won the title. Funny that innit!
Go to bed Old Lad, and then cringe in the morning when you have to come back on here!
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| Quote: Dave Lister "I bet Bradford supporters are cringing at Ewwenorfolk. What an embarrassment
Correct. *Cringe Cringe*
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| Quote: El Pac Carnegie "I think we kept going and got a winning try like a good team does. Wigan kept going like the good team they are but they made a mistake when it mattered. That isn't luck. That's down to them been out on their feet, not luck.'"
I have no doubt Leeds have more chance of doing something like this than any other team. You're the champions, the team to beat, the best in the competition. With that comes experience and composure which also contributes to the try. It still has to have an element of luck to score like that in the last minute considering the defences throughout the match.
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| Quote: RescuedBlue "Man, you are stinking from this one. I think the last time I got so angry after a team I don't even support lost was when Bradford were denied a try in the last minute of a game against Leigh in about 1993 which would have meant they would have won the title. Funny that innit!
Go to bed Old Lad, and then cringe in the morning when you have to come back on here!'"
I'd rather have seen Wigan win. But i'm not heartbroken to see Leeds go through, I just reckon Wigan would have deserved it more and can be disappointed in the manner they lost.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "I'd rather have seen Wigan win. But i'm not heartbroken to see Leeds go through, I just reckon Wigan would have deserved it more and can be disappointed in the manner they lost.'"
Just out of interest, do you have the stats of the number of clean breaks made by both sides today?
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| Quote: RescuedBlue "Just out of interest, do you have the stats of the number of clean breaks made by both sides today?'"
I was gunna ask that. We were shocking with ball in hand but stood up to be counted in defence. If it was flukey that we scored in the last I assume it was flukey for Wigan that Delaney had his brain fart 5 minutes earlier and tossed it into the crowd.
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| Quote: RescuedBlue "Just out of interest, do you have the stats of the number of clean breaks made by both sides today?'"
No.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "It's dependant on the circumstances.
If a team plays poorly and is consistently missing tackles for 80 minutes, then its not going to be unlucky missing another in the last minute.
If a team stands solid for 79 minutes then misses a tackle near the tryline it is lucky.
You must see that the 2nd scenario is unluckier than the first??'"
No.
Missing a tackle at whatever point in the game isn’t unlucky, just a poor tackle.
Jeez, I thought I didn’t like Leeds. But if there was a league table, you would be two divisions above me.
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| Quote: El Pac Carnegie "I was gunna ask that. We were shocking with ball in hand but stood up to be counted in defence. If it was flukey that we scored in the last I assume it was flukey for Wigan that Delaney had his brain fart 5 minutes earlier and tossed it into the crowd.'"
That was lucky, yes.
It's Wigan's own fault they lost - they shouldn't have missed that tackle. I'm not blaming the referee or saying Leeds cheated. My argument is reasonable - Leeds last try was lucky.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "No.
Missing a tackle at whatever point in the game isn’t unlucky, just a poor tackle.
Jeez, I thought I didn’t like Leeds. But if there was a league table, you would be two divisions above me.'"
Gleeson only missed 1 tackle - that one.
It's unlucky that it occured in the last minute right on the tryline as opposed to in the 50th on the halfway line.
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| In sport and life, you make your own luck.
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| Quote: El Pac Carnegie "I was gunna ask that. We were shocking with ball in hand but stood up to be counted in defence. If it was flukey that we scored in the last I assume it was flukey for Wigan that Delaney had his brain fart 5 minutes earlier and tossed it into the crowd.'"
Despite the amount of possesion Wigan had in the Leeds half, I am struggling to recall when they genuinely looked like scoring a try. Maybe the last 5 seconds of the first half, but that was down to the Leeds knock on from the kick off. Leeds played the majority of the first half in our own half, which the BBC made of the fact that Pat Richards was such a great long kicker (which he is) however it was clear (especially going on the effect of his kicks in the second half) that there was a strong wing blowing east to west.
Leeds scored a try and blew one of probably the only two genuine try scoring opportunites of the whole game
How this equals mass Wigan dominance and the best side losing is beyond me
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| Quote: Richie "In sport and life, you make your own luck.'"
But not in blackjack
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