The stobart deal was better?? Really?

I definitely believe the engage deal was better, but in the relative position the sport was in, I still think the deal ranges in the "okay to good" section - better than the disastrous section stobart was in. Ultimately getting people to pay for something you gave away for free previously is very difficult - just ask the clubs that have done cheap season tickets and are now trying to charge full price

No I'm not, people still talk about the Engage and Stobart deals even though they've finished, so "people will criticise this deal for years" is a fair assumption regardless of whether it runs its full course.



Not saying that is wrong, and I've not said this a fantastic deal. I was questioning why you and others get peeved about the RFL in terms of their media responses, you did write.....

"when the news is good, the RFL roll out the full press machine. When the news is not so good, the RFL hide behind the door and hope it'll go away."

What part of this bugs you? That they report good news? That they don't highlight the bad news in the same way?

"when the news is good, the RFL roll out the full press machine. When the news is not so good, the RFL hide behind the door and hope it'll go away."

Did this Gutterfax character really say this?

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say, why on earth would any organisation want to use PR to put 'not so good' news out? I hope gutter fax doesn't work in marketing or PR.

Where did I say that they should use PR to put out not so good news? Please....feel free to highlight where I said that! You can frame your opinion in any way you like, but no matter how hard you look, you won't find anything where I have said that.

You joined this forum in Dec 2011....I suspect I was doubting the ability of the RFL to attract a decent level of interest and investment in the game long before then. You starting your whining with the above doesn't add any more credence to your opinion by the way......it just makes you sound like a whining complaining trying to attract the attention of moderators because someone has an opinion different to yours..........kind of like THIS IDIOT BELOW....

This is a thread about the title sponsor of SL. To understand how this deal stacks up in the realm of UK sports sponsorship, it will be compared to other sports as well as it's previous incumbents. This is not a drift, but you too are a whining who since being shown up in the attendance spat by Billy is now trying to pick another argument you won't win!

For the record, posting chapter and verse about how you used to enjoy these forums and how annoying Gutterfax is in random threads is ACTUALLY causing thread drifts and against the AUP.

Back on thread.

The Chairman of Wakefield has apparently confirmed that a portion of the deal in CPA (as was Foxy Bingo). This is most assuredly a step up from the Stobart deal, but is definitely still not in the same ball park as we used to get from Engage. The owner of Salford doesn't seem as impressed with the deal!

Hear Hear. I thought was just me who gets tired of Gutter's drivel

Hear Hear. I thought was just me who gets tired of Gutter's drivel

Hear hear. Thought to was must me that is bored of Gutter's drivel. (And repeated on most threads)

Hear hear. Thought to was must me that is bored of Gutter's drivel. (And repeated on most threads)

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What with his 52 posts and your 83, I'll be getting a paranoia complex next.....although the reluctance of certain posters to put me on ignore but to instead whine like little girls is quite amusing, it adds little to the debate, which in this instance, is in regards to the "hybrid" sponsorship naming rights of SL with some cash and some connection cash being the make up. Any thoughts on that, or are you just going to whine like little girls some more?

He'll be heading the same way as Dally m and the other trolls before him eventually.

so what did you mean by your comment on RFL pushing out good news and hiding bad news? What are you suggesting they should do differently, put more focus on bad news and less on good news? What do you do for a living again other than stuff envelopes for a mail out?

I think Gutter speaks a lot of sense, though I don't agree with his Salford bashing. It's only those in cloud cuckooland who think British RL is thriving at pro/semi-pro levels. Factnot. It takes people from OUTSIDE the game to see the real issues.

Not seeing anybody on here who has said the game is "thriving". Nor people saying the RFL is amazing or Nigel Wood is fantastic. But because some of us don't bash the game in every single post on every thread we comment on we must "think that the game is in brilliant condition". Or alternatively we know the game's issues but some people on here go so OTT in their bashing of the sport (and on a repeated regular basis) that we level it up with a bit of balance.

Presumably because some of the payment to clubs will be based on the number of their supporters that sign up, so a club with 7,000 supporters is likely to generate more revenue than a club with 3,000 supporters.

Be interested to know what Catalans think of this deal.