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Quote: Roy Haggerty "With the best will in the world, when an RL adminstrator says that something is a good idea, everyone should immediately start looking to do the opposite.

Seriously though, everything that Gallop currently says has to be viewed through the prism of what's currently going on in Australia with an aggressive AFL seeking to expand into Qld and NSW. He's hardly going to say "Yes, we're bricking it because a cashed up AFL has some bizarre hold on the imagination of many of our countrymen with their strange aerial ping-pong and is importing their odd eighties-style muscle vests into our backyard, while we can only barely afford to keep the best team in the comp going in Melbourne." In April this year, Gallop was quoted as supporting a third Queensland team in the Ipswich area with a fourth to come further down the line. He's a pro, making whatever noises he sees fit given the stories on the back pages at the time.

I think it's reaching a bit to suggest that anything he says now on the subject of how he squares up to AFL in the Aussie TV rights wars is relevant to anything we do to try to grow the game in Europe.'"


pure poetry. f**k you know your stuff

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Quote: Starbug "Increase in crowds from when , many of the clubs have had very good crowds in their past , just as many clubs in both the UK and Australia have had very bad crowds in their past

You said [sizeRL[/size , not SL'"



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when were those good crowds, 1907, 1895, 1860 or 1960 it all doesnt matter.

the point which youve missed is these clubs have missed the boat, wont do anything to modernise and deserve to be left behind

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also from that article .

Two new clubs - possibly from the Central Coast and a second team in Brisbane - will be added to the premiership by 2013. This will provide an extra game and extra television programming."


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Quote: dally messenger "

You obviously struggle understanding more than one question at a time , so I'll split them for you

Quote: dally messenger "Yes so what was the competition to RL in Australia in 1909 ? '"



Away you go

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "

Here's the other one


Quote: dally messenger "The introduction of the ' Pokie ' machines produced massive revenue for RL in Australia , what expansion did this produce ? '"


Away you go again

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Quote: Starbug "You obviously struggle understanding more than one question at a time , so I'll split them for you




Away you go'"


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every other football code was established in sydney prior to RLs introduction in 1908

ie AFL, soccer and RU.

indeed the battle for supremacy with union which began in 1908 was only won in 1909 when the NSWRL signed the second lot of wallabies including chris mckivat and the playing of the roos vs wallaby games.


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anything else youd like to know dear.

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Quote: dally messenger "

They were for many years of the sport , true we didn't modernise and they were left behind

So who do you think will replace them ?

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when i say established i mean they were in strong positions, far stronger than a weakling RL.

we started off behind them in sydney and destroyed them all.

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Quote: Starbug "They were for many years of the sport , true we didn't modernise and they were left behind

So who do you think will replace them ?'"


replace them where?

they are in the leagues they deserve to be in.

my point is they dont deserve to be in SL. and all their bleating from their fans about various RFL injustices or the fact that expansion clubs dont deserve to be in SL is just jealousy.

these failed heartland clubs get what they deserve

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Quote: dally messenger "soccer and RU.

indeed the battle for supremacy with union which began in 1908 was only won in 1909 when the NSWRL signed the second lot of wallabies including chris mckivat and the playing of the roos vs wallaby games.'"





So there were proffesional Football clubs operating in Australia in 1909 on a similar level to those in the UK ?

I'll give you a little bit of help , the 1909 FA cup final was played in front of 71,000 people at Crystal Palace , who won the australian equivalent

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Quote: dally messenger "replace them where?
they are in the leagues they deserve to be in.

my point is they dont deserve to be in SL. and all their bleating from their fans about various RFL injustices or the fact that expansion clubs dont deserve to be in SL is just jealousy.

these failed heartland clubs get what they deserve'"


In SL you pillock , you know the thing you keep quoting as the sport in the UK , you have slagged everybody off except Leeds and W1g4n

If all us heartland clubs are not fit to grace SL who should replace them ? , it is not a hard question , even for you

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Quote: Starbug "In SL you pillock , you know the thing you keep quoting as the sport in the UK , you have slagged everybody off except Leeds and W1g4n

If all us heartland clubs are not fit to grace SL who should replace them ? , it is not a hard question , even for you'"


nope i never said wigan and leeds were the only clubs that deserve to be in SL.

im comfortable with the current heartland clubs in SL except wakey for widnes next time.

but within 5 years all of these clubs needs to be averaging 10,000 crowds and making moves to improve stadia which are poor.

the best example is Hull KR. slow crowd growth and continual ground improvements.

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Come on Dally this one , you've avoided it for several pages now


The introduction of the ' Pokie ' machines produced massive revenue for RL in Australia , what [sizeexpansion[/size did this produce ?


Easy question for somebody of your undoubted intellect

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Quote: Starbug "So there were proffesional Football clubs operating in Australia in 1909 on a similar level to those in the UK ?

I'll give you a little bit of help , the 1909 FA cup final was played in front of 71,000 people at Crystal Palace , who won the australian equivalent'"


RL wasnt professional in australia in 1909 dunce.


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in australia all the other footy codes were around before us and were stronger.

we came in and beat them

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Quote: dally messenger "nope i never said wigan and leeds were the only clubs that deserve to be in SL.

im comfortable with the current heartland clubs in SL except wakey for widnes next time.

but within 5 years all of these clubs needs to be averaging 10,000 crowds and making moves to improve stadia which are poor.

the best example is Hull KR. slow crowd growth and continual ground improvements.'"


And if they dont what do you suggest happens ?

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