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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "no it wasnt, how have you confused yourself here?

this was the post, its just a bit above yours



the people learning would be the [iThe people the clubs supply learn more about marketing as a result so if that club then does get into SL you have an experienced person to head up any marketing that club then does [/i'"


Righto , you did confuse me a little there

As for ' Marking ' them , well I suppose that could come later , initially the proof of success would be an increase in supporters at the clubs

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: "at super league level no they cant, clubs need to have strong sponsorship and corporate structures to survive in SL level'"


Quite possibly , but at the moment we are not discussing SL clubs , and of the clubs we are discussing only 1/2 are likely to have the opportunity to become SL clubs in the next 8 years


Quote: "If you are giving up on having these, you are giving up on SL'"


Not really , but quite simply I am suggesting the best use of a limited amount of money is to chase supporters rather than ' sugar daddy ' type investment


Quote: "and thats fine, not all clubs can be Elite, but it changes the focus of what the RFL need to try to do with clubs in that position'"


Which is ?


Quote: "the focus is either getting clubs in that league into a position where they can become SL clubs, or we can focus on strengthening the position of Semi-Pro clubs and improving the contribution they can make, in their position, to the game as a whole

Yes clubs should be and are and want to strengthen their position no matter where that is '"


There's that either or again , there is no either or in this ,


Quote: "you seem to be contradicting your self as usual,

on one hand you say Leigh dont have the potential to bring in this money and the RFL are wasting their time trying to encourage clubs to do so and on the other saying no-one knows if they do or not'"


No I'm not , clubs like Leigh are not in a position to bring that type of money in at the moment , so surely the Challenge is to get them to a position where they do become a club with that potential , If you have the clubs in the Championship averageing attendances half of the ave in SL [ say 5,000 ] then you will have investors becoming more interested in them , It's more a ' chicken /egg ' scenario than just cutting adrift


Quote: "Then fine, we can change the focus of the championship and the contribution it can make to RL'"


So what should that focus and contribution be ?

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Latest news on the Oldham situation www.roughyeds.co.uk/031109.htm
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Thats great news.

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Can anyone refresh my memory as to how Hamilton stopped being the major shareholder the other year?

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rlOldham's glory daysrl



20,000+ for a game against Swinton [size(in 1901)[/size

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20,000+ for a game against Swinton [size(in 1901)[/size'"


were you there?

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Nah he will of been off fighting those pesky boers.

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Quote: pyeman "Nah he will of been off fighting those pesky boers.'"
So that's why we took so long to win.

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Can anyone refresh my memory as to how Hamilton stopped being the major shareholder the other year?'"

Chris Hamilton took over the club at the demise of the Bears at the back end of 1997, with three others. Gradually over the years the other three dropped out one at a time. Bill Quinn came in as a big money backer three years ago, with Chris still owning 25% of the club. So the short answer to your question is has not stopped being a share holder, just did not have full control.

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Quote: Stealth Comic "Glad they've been bought out.

Hopefully lessons will have been learnt and they start to live within their means.

They some great fans at Oldham and with a bit of luck they might go up after coming so close the last 3 years.'"


Well said.

Good luck Oldham.

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Thankyou icon_smile.gif

But its gonna take some changes-can't be a one man show anymore.

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Quote: RoughyedWatcher "Chris Hamilton took over the club at the demise of the Bears at the back end of 1997, with three others. Gradually over the years the other three dropped out one at a time. Bill Quinn came in as a big money backer three years ago, with Chris still owning 25% of the club. So the short answer to your question is has not stopped being a share holder, just did not have full control.'"

That's why I say major (I actually meant to type majority icon_surprised.gifops:) shareholder, but thanks for clearing that up icon_smile.gif Wasn't there some hoo-ha previously from the fans about it being a one man band etc before Quinn became involved though?

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