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Tomkins' defensive frailties and competency under the high ball has always been overstated since a couple of high profile errors in the 2012 CC semi. He's nowhere near as bad as some like to make out. The OP obviously has an agenda but I'll bite anyway - how anyone can question his passing game and making out he offers nothing chiming into the three quarter line is beyond me! The 4 seasons between 2010-2013 he scored 89 SL tries and created another 90 - not bad for someone who's nothing more than a broken field runner.

I'm with Wigg'n, if I was offered Tomkins at his peak or Radlinski at his it would be ST everyday of the week.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "you've blundered in your analysis by ignoring the fact he played 4 years in superleague, 03/04 at hull fc.

And whilst we're on about it, i'm pretty sure he played centre mostly over here.'"



Barnett & Best were one of the best centre / wing partnerships at Hull in a long time .

I thought Mark McLinden was a very good player for London/ Harlequins .

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Quote: B0NES "Barnett & Best were one of the best centre / wing partnerships at Hull in a long time .

I thought Mark McLinden was a very good player for London/ Harlequins .'"



well, was looking at the squad list for hull in that period, it was pretty impressive, and under mcrae looked like you'd kick on, but then you had your weird blips and then the coach is coming out saying there's a cancer in the club? wtf is going on then? That period should have been your launch pad imo.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "well, was looking at the squad list for hull in that period, it was pretty impressive, and under mcrae looked like you'd kick on, but then you had your weird blips and then the coach is coming out saying there's a cancer in the club? wtf is going on then? That period should have been your launch pad imo.'"


Well, it kind of was, wasn't it.

The next season in 2005 we won the cup & 2006 we got to the GF. 2007 is where it started to go t!ts up.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "you've blundered in your analysis by ignoring the fact he played 4 years in superleague, 03/04 at hull fc.

And whilst we're on about it, i'm pretty sure he played centre mostly over here.'"



You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"



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just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.
Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"



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just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.


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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"


You've blundered in not realising there were two Richie Barnetts at Hull, both of which you mention in your post.

(and yes, he played , generally alongside Colin Best).

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Quote: "There is only one player in Super League who could dazzle at full back like Richard Barnett, and that was another former London Bronco named Mark McLinden.'"


For you Jean that is a good call. One of my fav players, brilliantly talented.

Broncos with Tommy L, Dorny and Marty were brilliant to watch in full swing.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"


Now THAT'S a blunder. Dear me.

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paul reilly was a fans fave at hudds and tough as nails, scored a hat trick for england too

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Quote: brearley84 "no scott grix

told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"
Your knowledge of Rugby League is embarrassing you. icon_surprised.gifops:

You'd be more respected if you kept quiet.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007'"


Perceptive as well as underrated. Not you BTW.

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Quote: tigertot "Perceptive as well as underrated. Not you BTW.'"



natch.



it was well deserved, i was telling him i didn't think he was a very good player, and that he had a temper issue and that his thigh tattoo was an incredibly poor choice and substandard artwork.

And i said it all incredibly politely, just as above, and hadn't been drinking on the journey down from warrington to cardiff.

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Quote: Him "I think Dorn has been an asset at whichever club he's been at and because it's never been at one of the big 4 I think he's often underrated.

I'd add Harris, Briscoe and Webb to the list of top full backs in SL.'"


In terms of Leeds FB's. Harris I think switching to the halves a lot mid-game and then playing HB on his return with Bradford probably counts against him.

Webb 2007-2008 was great. After his first back injury he never the same and became mouthy and niggly but still a good player nonetheless.

Hardaker hasn't had the longevity there like most of the 5 picked. However had he (and Leeds) carried on from last year I think they'd have probably included him over Dorn.

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