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| Quote: spegs "Wellens at FB.... ![]()
Whilst I agree wello, as good of a guy as he is, is probably somewhere position 5-10 in the list of superleague fullbacks, (I think I'd put him 4th but that may just be redvee sentiment :p) to say he isn't the best fullback in saints superleague history is a bold claim! Who do you think is better??? Don't let the sands of time dull his memory, he was top class in his day (and him not being able to maintain it, for more than a couple of seasons is probably the one reason he doesn't make it) model of consistency though.
My 13 (trying to take off the redvee specs)
1. Radlinski
2. Hall
3. Lyon
4. Senior
5. Vaikona
6. Sculthorpe (as was said 2 mos playing mainly stand off so it should be okay naming him here)
7. Lam
8. Anderson
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Ellis (though he seems intent on working his way out of this list at hull...)
12. Peacock (was named in dream team 2 years on the run at second row so it should be fine)
13. Farrell
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Paul Wellens
Ryan Hall
Leon Pryce
Michael Withers
Lesley Vainikolo
Danny McGuire
Paul Deacon
Stuart Fielden
Keiron Cunningham
Jamie Peacock
Paul Sculthorpe
Andy Farrell
Kevin Sinfield
James Graham
Chris Joynt
Rob Burrow
Paul Anderson
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| Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
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If I live to be 150 years old I still don't think I will understand why Joel Monaghan is so highly rated. Best of the Superleague era ffs?
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| Jun 2011 | 13 years | |
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The idea that Keith Senior is one of the best two centres of Super League is a complete joke. He was not as good as Gidley. But most important, he was not as good as Steve Renouf.
The best Super League team isSam Tomkins (Wigan)
Jason Robinson (Wigan) Steve Renouf (Wigan), Jamie Lyon (St. Helens), Martin Offiah (London)
Trent Barrett (Wigan)
Andrew Johns (Warrington)
Paul Sculthorpe (St Helens)
Sam Burgess (Bradford) Jamie Peacock (Bradford)
James Graham (St Helens), Keiron Cunningham (St Helens), Adrian Morley (Leeds)
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Your Vainikolo, Carney, Briers, Newlove, Gidley and Senior belong in the second and third best teams.'"
Absolute nonsense. Renouf wasn't half as good as Newlove in Super League. |
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1. Stuart Spruce
2. Tevita Vaikona
3. Leon Pryce
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Henry Paul
7. Robbie Paul
8. Joe Vagana
9. James Lowes
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Jamie Peacock
12. Bernard Dwyer
13. Brad McKay
14. Paul Deacon
15. Mike Forshaw
16. Brian McDermott
17. Paul Anderson
18. Sam Burgess
Not really...
I was just too cheerful a minute ago so I thought I'd depress myself.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Lowes better than Cunningham, priceless.'"
I'd agree overall, however, toe-to-toe ('96-'03) I'd say there was very little in it. |
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| Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Lowes better than Cunningham, priceless.'"
Cunningham can't spin pass to his right, that should be the minimum requirement for a number nine.
If he would have gone for a trial at Melbourne, Bellamy would have said thanks but no thanks. Would prefer to have Ryan Hinchcliffe as my No.9. Cunningham is highly overrated. |
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1. Kris Radlinski
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Jamie Peacock
12. Andrew Farrell
13. Paul Sculthorpe
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| Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
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| Quote: hindle xiii "1. Stuart Spruce
2. Tevita Vaikona
3. Leon Pryce
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Henry Paul
7. Robbie Paul
8. Joe Vagana
9. James Lowes
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Jamie Peacock
12. Bernard Dwyer
13. Brad McKay
14. Paul Deacon
15. Mike Forshaw
16. Brian McDermott
17. Paul Anderson
18. Sam Burgess
Not really...
I was just too cheerful a minute ago so I thought I'd depress myself.'"
No place for Michael Withers? |
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| Quote: OzWelsh "Cunningham can't spin pass to his right, that should be the minimum requirement for a number nine.
If he would have gone for a trial at Melbourne, Bellamy would have said thanks but no thanks. Would prefer to have Ryan Hinchcliffe as my No.9. Cunningham is highly overrated.'"
Haha. Overrated by 99% of players, fans,coaches and pundits who consistently rated him as one of the best hookers in the world and one of the best all-time SL players? You are literally the only person I have ever known to say he is overrated.
The more I read of your posts, the more I have to question how much you know/understand about the game. |
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Jack Reed has excellent hands - his problem is lack of speed. Check out the tries he set up for Josh Hofman last year for proof.
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| Sep 2012 | 12 years | |
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| Sam Tomkins
Lesley Vainikolo
Keith Senior
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Trent Barrett
Sean Long
Adrian Morley
Shane Millard
Jamie Peacock
Sean O'Loughlin
Sam Burgess
Andy Farrell
Put Millard in there because i couldn't bring myself to name the fat bar-steward from St Helens.  |
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The idea that Keith Senior is one of the best two centres of Super League is a complete joke. He was not as good as Gidley. But most important, he was not as good as Steve Renouf.
The best Super League team isSam Tomkins (Wigan)
Jason Robinson (Wigan) Steve Renouf (Wigan), Jamie Lyon (St. Helens), Martin Offiah (London)
Trent Barrett (Wigan)
Andrew Johns (Warrington)
Paul Sculthorpe (St Helens)
Sam Burgess (Bradford) Jamie Peacock (Bradford)
James Graham (St Helens), Keiron Cunningham (St Helens), Adrian Morley (Leeds)
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Your Vainikolo, Carney, Briers, Newlove, Gidley and Senior belong in the second and third best teams.'"
I agree about Senior to a certain extent but you have players in here that you are rating for their rugby outside Super League.
E.g. Martin Offiah playing for London was not good enough for this team.
Same with Sam Burgess. He plays his outstanding rugby abroad, not in Super League. |
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| Sep 2006 | 18 years | |
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1. Tomkins
2. Robinson
3. Carmont
4. Lyon
5. Vainokolo
6. Barrett
7. Long
8. Peacock
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Burgess
12. Sculthorpe
13. Farrell
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1. Kris Radlinski
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Gary Connolly
5. Ryan Hall
6. Trent Barrett
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Adrian Morley
12. Andy Farrell
13. Paul Sculthorpe
Very difficult, there are plenty to choose from.
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