And Lovell

6k is acceptable
8-10k is good
10k plus is great

That's what I think any top division prof RL club should be measured on.

Sub 3k has no place in a top flight competition IMO unless there is clear signs and plans of how it will be quickly grown.

This has the old - HRFC want to put the rent up lets say we are talking to Brentford etc etc and see if we can get the rent dropped.

Blimey, change the record.

Well done London, that's a great result last night and things seem to be moving the right way under Tony Rea.

Let's hope you find a ground-Brisbane Rd preferably in my opinion, but a proper 'home' and people will soon start watching a winning team, which you will get if you keep Tony Rea and keep spending the salary cap.

With the right ground, the right coach and the right marketing London could be a real success with 10k crowds and a competitive team.

Agreed, hope it happens.

They've got the team and coach now in my opinion.

Marketing and a ground and they won't be far off.

For the sake of a balanced argument, although you have never finished in a relgation place, it is also true that you never finished in a promotion place. So, if you can be elevated to SL on such terms, then you should also be able to be removed from SL even if you don't finish in a relgation spot. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Strictly speaking none of the SL1 teams were promoted into it, they were all foundation clubs invited to join a brand new league that had not existed before. Now some people may believe we should not have been invited to join, but that's a different argument, and people could decide to level it against any other SL foundation club, with different levels of justification of course.

Having my cake, and eating it, thank you very much.

Strictly speaking, you are wrong.

Long ago I accepted that SL will forever be lumbered with a nomadic London side forever languishing in the lower regions of the table and attracting crowds of 2,000. 20 years from now we'll be in the same situation as we are now and saying 'it could still work'.

How so? I am not aware that SL existed prior to it's first season, but I know we had the first division prior to and after the formation of SL as an entirely new league.

I wonder when Castleford will work.

I stand to be corrected, but IIRC the places in SL1 that weren't earmarked for London and PSG went to the top 10 teams in Division 1 (no favours to Workington, who weren't ready, got relegated after 1year and went bust) - which, incidentally, is yet another reason why the old Widnes fans' moan about you stealing their place in SL1 is wrong: they could have finished in the top 10 and qualified, but didn't even make the top 11 (Featherstone were 11th, I seem to recall)