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Quote: "You're not going to get that with a team like they have. I have to say that Quins were one of the worst teams I have seen at Headingley on Friday'"


When you think we have Purdham, Orr, Dorn, Temata, Gale, Wells.... missing therefore we had no experienced half backs , a hooker at half back, 17 year olds in the halves its probably not that surprising.

Quote: "Im actually coming round to the belief that Quins decline on the field is down in part to the lack of relegation.
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Its a change in strategy brought about by financial constraints. Players like Hill, Mclinden, Paul etc have left and been replaced by London trained youngsters which is one of the primary reasons relegation was scrapped to allow clubs to invest in and nurture English youth. In the past we were slagged of for having to many Aussies now for being poor when we have 20 London trained players in the squad-hmmmm-have you heard the phrase your are damned if you............. if so apply it here

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Odemwingie "The only thing quins need to do is get more bums on seats, I dont see enough evidence of them trying to get this sorted! It's really annoying.'"

You have no idea how annoying it is. The really worrying thing is that this year, for the first time in 10 years there is a marketing manager and a budget......problem is, you can have a budget of £1,000,000 a game, but if the person controlling the budget doesn't understand the problem, you may as well not have a budget at all.

Quins need to go down the route that Huddersfield went......if you are going to expect David Hughes to pick up the tab, then for gods sake, make sure the money spent is used wisely. I would give away 8,000 tickets to every game....bollox to devaluing the offer. People don't know we exist down here and if we were to give away 60% of the grounds capacity then even the myopic media down here would have to pay attention. Quins will struggle to get a 3.5k average this year (even with the double header gate that they will use to muddy the waters)......and that is unacceptable.
I have spent nearly 10 years defending London RL gates on these boards but I honestly can't think of any reason to continue to do so......Quins knew they needed to increase gates and they haven't....no excuses. I have no issue with the Management at the club, but if they aren't up to the task, then they should be replaced. Nobody told PB it was going to be easy, so he needs to roll up his sleeves and get on with it. We'd all love an easy job....but very few of us ever get one.

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Quins' biggest (and Broncos' and Crusaders' before them) is clearly spelled out by Blanchard in the interview.

Quote: Over the last year my focus has been to introduce a more commercial approach. That's been the main thing and it's involved quite a serious culture change.'"
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I suspect 'culture change' is the right word: from the outside looking in it's seemed that the London club has historically relied on League enthusiasts essentially volunteering for the cause, rather than building a commercial basis. At least it seems to be being addressed.
"There's been a period over the last three years of very little stability because of a high turnover of staff and very little focus on the fundamentals of business, like selling tickets.

"Over the last year my focus has been to introduce a more commercial approach. That's been the main thing and it's involved quite a serious culture change.'"


I suspect 'culture change' is the right word: from the outside looking in it's seemed that the London club has historically relied on League enthusiasts essentially volunteering for the cause, rather than building a commercial basis. At least it seems to be being addressed.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: tb "Quins' biggest (and Broncos' and Crusaders' before them) is clearly spelled out by Blanchard in the interview.

I suspect 'culture change' is the right word
sorry....but (and I will be shot down by the faithful for being bitter) too little too late! The real challenge is to fill the ground every second week. Regardless of the team performance, there is f&ck all point in opening the gates for a crowd that equates to 20% capacity........you will never break even...ever! Fill the ground,.........I don't give a toss if it's £0,01 a ticket....or less, just fill it! Don't start fannying around waiting for the team to come good......fill it now! My first year we gave Halifax their only win .....god we were crap, but I still came back for the atmosphere.....don't use a 5hit team to blame tha failings of the last 15 years.......just get on with it!
I see this as the most important year in the history of the club. The RFL have made it clear we need to increase gates. F&ck development...we will tick that box as long as 1 kid laces up boots to play the game.....get bums on seats. Change in culture icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif it will never happen so long as we rely on 1 man for funding.....he is a saint, but he will not spend money on marketing d040.gif
A sub 3,000 average this year and the RFL have their excuse to bin London........and who could blame them?

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Quote: a.n Other "No, i think you are the person who suggested a "lower" soccer club would take over another teams licence. I know of most football teams in London - but which one is it you are talking about? Do you think the people who own QPR are interested in buying a RL club? Do you know who owns QPR?'"


its funny how you always respond to my posts given some of your personal attacks

it must hurt having someone from another country knowing more about your game than you do

if only you didnt think about your own small club and the whole game, youd progress

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current London RL fans = 3000
if they can get a link up with a soccer side surely they can get 3000 new fans

throw in away fans and thats a pretty strong franchise.

fulham was the most succesful London RL club. the problem was when Fulfham FC got promoted to PL and the yo yo existence of the RL team saw a loss in crowds

heck some of their crowds outside the top division were almost double todays SL crowds

the quins brand just hasnt caught on. so perhaps getting soccer fans in is better.

and brentford was just a ground share. im not talking ground share

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dally messenger "
and brentford was just a ground share. im not talking ground share'"

I agree (god and it hurts typing that).....a tie in with a london Soccer club may work, but the reason the Quins tie in hasn't worked has NOTHING TO DO WITH UNION, GROUND SITUATION OR ANY OTHER LAME EXCUSE!
[sizeM-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G[/size....there has been no [sizeM-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G[/size.... and as such, until there is some [sizeM-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G[/size....the club will fail to attract fans. I know this is hard to grasp....but nobody in Twickenham knows we exist and if we haven't told the 250,000 people nearest the ground, then how the hell do you expect the other 12,000,000 in the area to know we exist>........
in case you missed it...
[sizeM-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G[/size....is the key!

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



icon_surprised.gifops:
sorrry.....it's just...I mean....., what I wanted to say was...oh wtf...MARKETING! icon_cool.gif

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I seem to remember you guys getting a pretty healthy following some years back when you played at The Valley. Now Charlton are a 'lower league' team, maybe thats an option to look at and please drop the Quins name its crap.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Fax Missionary "I seem to remember you guys getting a pretty healthy following some years back when you played at The Valley. Now Charlton are a 'lower league' team, maybe thats an option to look at and please drop the Quins name its crap.'"

FulhamCrusaderBroncoQuinBroncos....Rugby League you mean? Brilliant.........move fail move fail move fail.......sorry, but this is it for a SL team from London this time around. If we do get booted out, then it will take 10 years before they try again. Quins is a good ground, a very well known brand and they were very welcoming for the first 3 years.......the RL management on the other hand have managed to f*ck that up and we now pay rent (again) where we could have remained partners.......and all because we didn't build crowds.
How hard is it for people to see......or am I just the only one that thinks you need to market something before people know it exists?......

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seriously if the club cant get union ST interested in RL in summer its not going to work

wrexham shows how it can work easily

so did fulham

no separate names, or colours. same as a soccer side and itll go fine

quins just seems like its too much of a struggle

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if wrexham works out well, i expect more lower division soccer sides to want to do the same thing.

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How many clubs do you expect to be up for sale, lock stock and barrel, for their chairman to buy (nb, it's an individual who bought the Crusaders, not Wrexham FC)?

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Quote: tb "How many clubs do you expect to be up for sale, lock stock and barrel, for their chairman to buy (nb, it's an individual who bought the Crusaders, not Wrexham FC)?'"


it only takes one club

the economics for a SL club could be more compelling for smaller soccer teams than premier league

i keep going back to fulham being so succesful vs all the other guises london SL clubs have taken

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