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Quote: JonM ""Visit Wales" stumped up half a million quid to get the RFL to hold the event in Cardiff. We don't know the terms of the Murrayfield deal (presumably much less advantageous), but I'd assume the RFL do get some money from Scotland for taking Magic weekend to Edinburgh. Can't see the Northwest tourist body wanting to spend big money on winning the event, as it's not exactly going to fill hotel rooms.'"


The RFL paid the Scottish Tourist Board £45k to promote the games, and up to close of play last Wednesday had sold just over 400 tickets.

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Can't the RFL pay for a few adverts on national TV late ish at night when the slots are cheaper?
Granted we might only get gay deaf people but numbers are numbers.

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Quote: Big Graeme "rlDown less than 8000rl

rlPoor ticket salesrl

rlLack of promotion and hotel pricesrl'"


So nothing actually said by the RFL then?

If you would care to read before mouthing off yet again, I stated in my earlier post the figure this year was 10,000 down on 2008 icon_wink.gif

And they thought Cardiff ticket sales were poor..............

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Quote: wiganermike "Your first point as I said is conjecture, there is no evidence to suggest that an increased attendance would occur. Also it is doubtful that any increase in spending within the city would occur. People that stay over in Edinburgh pay for food and drink just as a daytripper would and they pay for accommodation as well. Day trippers to Manchester wouldn't so that income is lost.

It doesn't follow that because Saints are playing to a smaller capacity for their 'home' derby next year that their fans will turn out en masse for a game at a bigger stadium in Manchester. The DW has a capacity of 25k and 10k season ticket holders. If they wish there is nothing to stop the Saints support from travelling a few miles to purchase the spare 10k tickets in any of the home stands for that derby to make it more like a home game for them. That would give a large attendance with a better atmosphere in a stadium that is almost certain to be full.

As for development in Manchester (or AGMA as you put it) in 115 years the existence of clubs in Salford, Swinton, Oldham, Broughton, Belle Vue, Trafford and further back Stockport and Tyldeseley did not tap into the unconverted millions in the area. In the only areas that are interested in supporting RL, Wigan and Leigh it took off. Salford continue to plug away and get the level of support they do and good luck to them but if a succession of clubs, 4 of which at different periods fought it out for the honours within the sport could not break the stranglehold that soccer has in Manchester then one weekend of fixtures is not going to either. We have been trying to expand the base in Greater Manchester for the whole existence of our sport. We need to try to do the same in other areas of the country and that is why the Magic event needs to be and is taken well away from the 'heartlands'. The guarantee of income from the tourist boards is a nice bonus.'"


FFS a huge festival of RL right on our doorstep would be massively popular!! If you think otherwise, you really don't know what you are talking about.

Has any real development effort ever been put into the AGMA region? NO, so why keep trotting out the 'it's been around for years' and never grown line?

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, by using yours and others arguments, the RFL shouldn't waste money on London and the South East given that Streatham and Mitcham and Acton packed up decades ago. Look at the saturation of sports in the South East region where football is far bigger than the AGMA region.

Just what impact has the two years spent in Wales had, and the two in Scotland?? Just where else is there to go? Given that Wales let the event go, why would they buy it back?

At least a well respected journalist and commentator like Dave Woods agrees with me on this one. But what does he know about it????

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Quote: Scanners "So nothing actually said by the RFL then?'"


If you want a signed statement from the RFL then you are SooL, those are from respected sources.

As for the rest of your keyboard warrior style, suggest you read the posts in the thread and the warning issues by tb before you shoot your mouth off icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wire_Yed "Can't the RFL pay for a few adverts on national TV late ish at night when the slots are cheaper?
Granted we might only get gay deaf people but numbers are numbers.'"

Gay deaf people who are looking for flirting via text with fun singles near by if we are being specific

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Quote: Scanners "FFS a huge festival of RL right on our doorstep would be massively popular!! '"

It is, every week. We have that every week. we have at least 4 SL games within a 60 mile radius every weekend of the season bar MM and the playoffs

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Quote: Big Graeme "If you want a signed statement from the RFL then you are SooL, those are from respected sources.

As for the rest of your keyboard warrior style, suggest you read the posts in the thread and the warning issues by tb before you shoot your mouth off
Conjecture by journalists is proof of what the RFL said, and what you used to support your argument? Can you point to any quote from anyone at the RFL? Thought not.

Keyboard warrior style, is that what handing you your ass on a plate is called?

Got any links to prove your claims that Mancheter City Council don't want RL played there in the off season, or any proof that the RFL has tried to secure use and been declined? Thought not.

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Quote: Scanners "Conjecture by journalists'"


Pieces from authoritative sources is not conjecture, no you won't find an RFL source but you already know that as that is not how things like this get to the media.

Quote: Scanners "Keyboard warrior style, is that what handing you your ass on a plate is called?'"


You'd struggle to hand me a sandwich on a plate.

Quote: Scanners "Got any links to prove your claims that Mancheter City Council don't want RL played there in the off season, or any proof that the RFL has tried to secure use and been declined? Thought not.'"


You got anything to say they'd love it and the RFL haven't been knocking? No? There have been enough chances for CoM to host a big RL match, the fact that they have only held one and that was close to six years ago speaks volumes to anyone but you, now if you can't handle that then tough.

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Quote: Big Graeme "Pieces from authoritative sources is not conjecture, no you won't find an RFL source but you already know that as that is not how things like this get to the media.

You'd struggle to hand me a sandwich on a plate.

You got anything to say they'd love it and the RFL haven't been knocking? No? There have been enough chances for CoM to host a big RL match, the fact that they have only held one and that was close to six years ago speaks volumes to anyone but you, now if you can't handle that then tough.'"


Journalists speculating is conjecture.
What chances has MCC been offered and turned down?

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So....gates were down by 3k on Saturday and 4.5k on Sunday.....no reason to panic, but to lose 7,750 people (13% against 2009) should worry the RFL.
I would like to see the event held in Dublin, London or Paris next. All three have the potential to be expansionist areas and all would cope easily with the influx of 35,000 people.

Dublin has a new 50,000 seater Rugby/Soccer Stadium in 8 days time. It is a 10 minute walk from the centre of town (with many pit-stop opportunities), good transport links and regular ferries from the UK, together with ample flights. The downside would be the associated costs of a weekend in Europes Drinking Capital......, but I still say that the Magic weekend would be a great success. Also, for those who despise Union (I still can't understand these people d040.gif )....what better way to stick to fingers up at the IRB than host a League event in their home town.

London has wembley or any number of stadiums that can comfortably hold 40,000 fans. All are pretty easy to get to and transport is getting a lot better.

Paris would be great! No issues getting there and plenty of hotel rooms, bars etc.......

IF the RFL are to keep the Magic weekend going, I believe they should miove it to the last May BH and continue to move it around.

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Paris is a good shout, get the RFL to put some cheap trains on and let's advertise the game in France.
I would leave Ireland alone for a while yet though.
Why London, even though we have Quins and Skolars hasn't been seriously thought of i don't know?
There is definitely more potential here than Scotland.
The Emirates is near to Upper St which is a great place, cafes and pubs, a bus ride from the centre (20 mins), 15 mins from Kings Cross and Euston.
Tube stations, Holloway Road, Arsenal, Highbury corner. Drayton Pk overground.
Highbury fields close by for any little events.

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Just throwing it out there, no RL over there, but city in terms of drinking and hotels with loads to do and easy to get to with ferries and flights....

Amsterdam!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Arena - 5 Star uefa stadium with 52,000 seats.....
Just throwing it out there, no RL over there, but city in terms of drinking and hotels with loads to do and easy to get to with ferries and flights....

Amsterdam!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Arena - 5 Star uefa stadium with 52,000 seats.....


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Quote: Sheffieldliam "Just throwing it out there, no RL over there, but city in terms of drinking and hotels with loads to do and easy to get to with ferries and flights....

Amsterdam!


But unfortunately not likely

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Quote: Sheffieldliam "Just throwing it out there, no RL over there, but city in terms of drinking and hotels with loads to do and easy to get to with ferries and flights....

Amsterdam!

I'll say it again.

Charlety Stadium, Paris. Get the french bigwigs curious

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