I tip-toe into this debate with apprehension because I'm not a Wakey hater. But (and I could be wrong) wasn't it the case that Wakefield's application for promotion (I forget the year) was based on the pledge to improve the ground. And then both Hunslet and Dewsbury were denied that same right as champions, because they couldn't make the same pledge?

Yes. You are wrong.

Of course there was a commitment to improve the ground - and in truth there have been improvements. But no, gaining promotion was not conditional on the promise of "we will build this, by X date".

On which part?



I didn't say that. More of a pledge / commitment. I'm just wondering could Hunslet have made a similar fairly ambiguous commitment and thus been promoted? I know people use this as an issue to beat Wakey with which I'm not at all interested in, but that whole promotion lark for a few successive years was so sketchy. But then when hasn't it been?!

On the part where you said "I could be wrong...".

The irritation for us, on top of the fact that we are still battling to get the stadium/upgrade we want, we have to listen to this urban myth of "you only got in SL cos you promised X".

If you say it enough it becomes the truth, it seems.

Improvements have included; a new (proper), toilet block, 2 terraces roofed, changing rooms refitted (even added a heating system last year), and upgraded crush barriers on all terraces.

This year already; re-roofing of the building you will know as Cats Bar and new floodlights gone in in the last month.

The new stand should start in Sept.

Emphasize "should".

It may well be frustrating, but its not difficult to see why that will have taken hold. You get promoted after winning the 1998 Division 1. The next year Hunslet win it and get told they are ineligible for promotion due to their ground. The following year Dewsbury win it and get told the same thing. So either your ground was good enough, or you promised to make it so. You are saying it's the former. I don't know which is true, that's why I was asking.

https://www.webcitation.org/5roV185aT?u ... 722356.ece https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... dium-plans https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-11606958 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bra ... 533503.amp https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ne ... wakefield/ Granted not a beacon of truth, but Wikipedia states that your 2007 application for the 2009 season mentioned being in a new stadium by 2010. You were told you wouldn't get a licence in 2011 without improvements of which you made none. You got in because Crusaders folded. Similarly, Cas according to those articles would be in a new ground by now and currently have what appear to be bushes growing out of the terraces.

https://www.webcitation.org/5roV185aT?u ... 722356.ece https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... dium-plans https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... e-11606958 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bra ... 533503.amp https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ne ... wakefield/ Granted not a beacon of truth, but Wikipedia states that your 2007 application for the 2009 season mentioned being in a new stadium by 2010. You were told you wouldn't get a licence in 2011 without improvements of which you made none. You got in because Crusaders folded. Similarly, Cas according to those articles would be in a new ground by now and currently have what appear to be bushes growing out of the terraces.

Quote: dboy "Where in that piece are you seeing the words "We promise to build a stadium by X date"?'" Will a headline which includes the word ' promises ' be sufficient? https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... ium-698678

Quote: dboy "Where in that piece are you seeing the words "We promise to build a stadium by X date"?'" Will a headline which includes the word ' promises ' be sufficient? https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... ium-698678

They are plans for a new stadium submitted over a decade ago and approved. "Look Mr RFL man, we have approved plans for a new ground" (or Mr taxman at one stage)

A decade later and you're still in the same hole and actually appear further away from a new ground than you apparently were then.

You've taken the p*** for years.

Moving to a new stadium around 2010. Told to improve the stadium or be kicked out in 2011. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... ouncement/ 2021 rolls around and STILL no new ground.

Moving to a new stadium around 2010. Told to improve the stadium or be kicked out in 2011. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... ouncement/ 2021 rolls around and STILL no new ground.

It is yes. Perhaps then you'd have solid facilities.

Our academy stadium is better than your first team stadium.

I'm not a Cas fan, I'm Wakey.

We are closer than ever to actually getting real development.

I must ask though; aren't you a Wigan fan?

You don't even have a ing ground!