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| Quote ="dally messenger"if hull fc had done this your opinion would be reversed
good on hull kr for taking advantages of any loopholes, id want my club to do the same thing
f**k the spirit of the law, winning SL is the most important
mason is a fantastic signing'"
Firstly don't tell what my opinion is, you'll make yourself look very foolish.
No one has a problem with Mason, infact everyones happy to see him in super league.
The clubs have to take some responsibility for the state of the international sides.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Firstly don't tell what my opinion is, you'll make yourself look very foolish.
No one has a problem with Mason, infact everyones happy to see him in super league.
The clubs have to take some responsibility for the state of the international sides.'"
its up to the RFL to make enforceable rules
well done Hull KR for taking advantage of any loopholes
dont give me this BS about spirit of the rules its nonsense
so if the situation was that Hull FC had all these imports and mason was coming, you would be posting on here the same things you are posting now????

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| Quote ="Sheldon"Firstly don't tell what my opinion is, you'll make yourself look very foolish.
No one has a problem with Mason, infact everyones happy to see him in super league.
The clubs have to take some responsibility for the state of the international sides.'"
Rovers having 10 overseas players is not the reason Englend are not as good as NZ or Oz, end of discussion.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"its up to the RFL to make enforceable rules
well done Hull KR for taking advantage of any loopholes
dont give me this BS about spirit of the rules its nonsense
so if the situation was that Hull FC had all these imports and mason was coming, you would be posting on here the same things you are posting now????
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It's a pointless conversation dally, you don't believe me and I don't care.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"its up to the RFL to make enforceable rules
dont give me this BS about spirit of the rules its nonsense
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Interestingly, players who don't play within the spirit of the rules are described as "winners" or "hard men" or "experienced" or "street-wise" or have a "win at all costs" mentality. These are usually talked of in favourable terms.
Indeed the Kipperman was most damning of those who described Maguire's injury incurred during a blatant act of cheating (or at least not playing to "the spirit of the rules"icon_wink.gif as "poetic justice" and also described Celtic Crusaders ability to skew the competition in Championship 2 and 1 by fielding numerous illegal antipodeans paid for by the RFL as "good management".
However, when it's not the former champions or a pet expansion club, and especially when there's an opportunity to throw some mud at Hull KR the requirement to operate within the "spirit of the rules" becomes much more stringent.
Funny that.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Rovers having 10 overseas players is not the reason Englend are not as good as NZ or Oz, end of discussion.'"
Correct.
For what it's worth, I think the RFL will regret sanctioning this all stars game, because I'm sure England will get well nd truly beaten.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Firstly don't tell what my opinion is, you'll make yourself look very foolish.
No one has a problem with Mason, infact [ueveryones happy to see him in super league.[/u
The clubs have to take some responsibility for the state of the international sides.'"
I'm not mate!  Got the potential to be either a fantastic signing or terrible one, not sure which will be. 
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| Have to say this as well - have watched a few clips of him on that popular video sharing website (e.g. his appauling late cheap shot on Long a few years ago). If I'm honest he strikes me as an utter tw*t. That doesn't mean he can't be a good signing, but I can't see him been good for morale at this point.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Interestingly, players who don't play within the spirit of the rules are described as "winners" or "hard men" or "experienced" or "street-wise" or have a "win at all costs" mentality. These are usually talked of in favourable terms.
Indeed the Kipperman was most damning of those who described Maguire's injury incurred during a blatant act of cheating (or at least not playing to "the spirit of the rules"icon_wink.gif as "poetic justice" and also described Celtic Crusaders ability to skew the competition in Championship 2 and 1 by fielding numerous illegal antipodeans paid for by the RFL as "good management".
However, when it's not the former champions or a pet expansion club, and especially when there's an opportunity to throw some mud at Hull KR the requirement to operate within the "spirit of the rules" becomes much more stringent.
Funny that.'"
exactly, we expect our players to bend the rules to get a win, but not a club
i was thinking that very thing
im not a Hull KR fan, but if i were, id be cheering theyd did this
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| Quote ="Roofs"Have to say this as well - have watched a few clips of him on that popular video sharing website (e.g. his appauling late cheap shot on Long a few years ago). If I'm honest he strikes me as an utter tw*t. That doesn't mean he can't be a good signing, but I can't see him been good for morale at this point.'"
Get your hands on Shane webkes 2nd book, he gives Mason a full chapter! 
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Get your hands on Shane webkes 2nd book, he gives Mason a full chapter!
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webcke really likes mark omeeley though
which sl club did he go too?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"webcke really likes mark omeeley though
which sl club did he go too?'"
The senior club in Hull.............FC
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| Quote ="dally messenger"webcke really likes mark omeeley though
which sl club did he go too?'"
you can be amusing cant you
get over the jealousy, its petty
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"icon_lol.gif
you can be amusing cant you
get over the jealousy, its petty'"
hey i prefer you guys over KR, honest
but the trolling on this thread is awful
as ive said before, for a small club they are doing very well
all the hull fans coming on here is just sour grapes
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| Quote ="Darrell"The senior club in Hull.............FC'"
The one formed in 1999 as a result of a merger between Hull Sharks and Gateshead Thunder 
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| I have to say that although it is a tad tiresome that Hull Kingston Australians overseas roster has contributed to about 15 threads and 2,000 posts to date, this off season on RLFANS.COM has been very enjoyable
What with everyone guessing which team will be ejected and who will replace them, Big Tongan Willie getting back to his roots, the RFL moving goal posts on an almost daily basis and shovels hitting dirt at Salfords new stadium, it certainly hasn't been boring on here 
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| Quote ="dally messenger"hey i prefer you guys over KR, honest
but the trolling on this thread is awful
as ive said before, for a small club they are doing very well
all the hull fans coming on here is just sour grapes'"
Wouldn't say we're a small club personally, if we are then WTF are the likes of Fulcrubronquins, Salford, Crusaders etc?!  (no disrespect to any of those clubs / Experiment).
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| Quote ="Roofs"Using the pathetic name Hull Kingston Australians and the word 'tiresome' in the same sentance, how fitting.
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Oh I agree roofs.......it is tiresome that Hull Kingston Australians are continuing to bend the rules and then defend themselves becuase they were "in the lower leagues for so long....boo hoo"
Quote ="Roofs"Oh, and re who to eject, I'd kick out the Experiment with the lowest average attendance, fairest way IMO.
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....good thinking. Let's kick out the team that represents the biggest afront to the regulations as laid out by the RFL>
Solvent? Quins 1 HKA 0
Stadium? Quins 1 HKA 0
UK Talent? Quins 1 HKA 0
RECENT Trophies (last 4 years to meake it fair)? Quins 2 fair play awards.....HKA 0
Academy development? Quins 3 U16's...HKA 1.
Students who downed Australia? Quins 1 HKA 0
Yep....yours is a model club...fans fighting on the pitch, throwing things at the oposition......quality stuff 
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Oh I agree roofs.......it is tiresome that Hull Kingston Australians are continuing to bend the rules and then defend themselves becuase they were "in the lower leagues for so long....boo hoo"
....good thinking. Let's kick out the team that represents the biggest afront to the regulations as laid out by the RFL>
Solvent? Quins 1 HKA 0
Stadium? Quins 1 HKA 0
UK Talent? Quins 1 HKA 0
RECENT Trophies (last 4 years to meake it fair)? Quins 2 fair play awards.....HKA 0
Academy development? Quins 3 U16's...HKA 1.
Students who downed Australia? Quins 1 HKA 0
Yep....yours is a model club...fans fighting on the pitch, throwing things at the oposition......quality stuff
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Quality 
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| haha the day we can learn anything of the failure that is Quins RL (ffs!) is the day we should pack it in. No fans, no money, poor team, identity and sustainability reliant on some ruggers team. Oh but we won a fair play award
How's that playing roster going? Likely to get out of the bottom 3 this year?
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| Sorry if this has been covered before, but I'm just trying to double check I've got this right:
Is there really a difference between being "quota" and being "non-fed trained" if you can have any combination of the two witha maximum of five? Does it really matter?
Are the five "non-fed" players at KR Mason, Clinton, Webster, Green and Dobson?
And are the five "exemptions" at KR Galea, Fisher, Vella, Newton and Lovegrove?
Has Galea got his exemption? And if so how? Wasn't the point of the exemptions to be fair to the players that came over to play in the UK under the old rules? Galea came over here as a quota player, surely? Why should be exempt just because he has access to a passport that he never used to work originally?
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| Wellsy lovegrove has dispensation so is fed trained.
Galea was supposed to get a eu passport and then would go non fed due to him been here for the 2008 rule.
He didn't so no matter what passport Mason held he shouldn't have been allowed to sign.
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He didn't so no matter what passport Mason held he shouldn't have been allowed to sign unless it was my club he signed for.'"
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