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Interesting comment from the former Salford Directors on the Bradford Administration:
A question was asked from a fan about administration.
"Why was it that during the recent Bradford Bulls financial difficulties were Bradford able to hold onto their playing assets, whilst Salford who are yet to enter administration, have already sold the backbone of their squad?"
John Wilkinson answered that he thought Bradford were being supported by the RFL and Bradford Council, especially since the RFL had a vested interest due to owning Odsal Stadium.
"The owner Omar Khan has a lot of money for only having two or so restaurants, and I also believe Bradford council and Gerry Suttcliffe (Bradford MP) must be financially supporting the Bulls but that’s just my guess."
www.salfordonline.com/sport_page ... art_2.html
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Interesting comment from the former Salford Directors on the Bradford Administration:
A question was asked from a fan about administration.
"Why was it that during the recent Bradford Bulls financial difficulties were Bradford able to hold onto their playing assets, whilst Salford who are yet to enter administration, have already sold the backbone of their squad?"
John Wilkinson answered that he thought Bradford were being supported by the RFL and Bradford Council, especially since the RFL had a vested interest due to owning Odsal Stadium.
"The owner Omar Khan has a lot of money for only having two or so restaurants, and I also believe Bradford council and Gerry Suttcliffe (Bradford MP) must be financially supporting the Bulls but that’s just my guess."
www.salfordonline.com/sport_page ... art_2.html
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "schadenfreude.'"
did someone get german word of the day toilet paper for christmas?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "its not tough. It isn't a fact of life, it isn't an unavoidable consequence, it's greed and schadenfreude. There is no need to relegate Bradford, no need to take money from them over two years, none of it is necessary or unavoidable.
The only people who supported it either monetarily benefitted from, or were sad, bitter fans of lesser clubs.'"
No, it was the clubs OWNERS, BRADFORDS AND THE OTHER CLUBS THAT TOOK THE MONEY, NO SYMPATHY WHATSOEVER FOR ANY OF THEM
YES GREED SL JUST GETS GREEDIER AND GREEDIER
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| Quote: Starbug "No, it was the clubs OWNERS, BRADFORDS AND THE OTHER CLUBS THAT TOOK THE MONEY, NO SYMPATHY WHATSOEVER FOR ANY OF THEM
YES GREED SL JUST GETS GREEDIER AND GREEDIER'"
You know that if I say SL clubs were greedy, there isn't much point in you saying 'NO SL CLUBS WERE GREEDY' I'm not sure what the caps added
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| Quote: Saint Simon "did someone get german word of the day toilet paper for christmas?'"
Apt choice of phrase given the he's peddling
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| Quote: Saint Simon "did someone get german word of the day toilet paper for christmas?'"
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| Some people on here would do well to read the administrators initial report, and subsequent progress reports, into the Bulls' affairs.
The initial report provides details of how they arrived at the point of going into administration, including such gems as :-
1. Seemingly not realising that selling the lease was a VATable transaction and being surprised (and not having set aside the money) when HMRC expected their £250k VAT payment
2. The "innovative" season ticket scheme yielding an average of only £72 per ticket
3. Receiving £550k in advances from RFL between point of going into administration and Khan buying the club
The subsequent progress reports show Khan in a bad light, stating that :-
1. He defaulted on paying the agreed instalments for the initial purchase of the club
2. He kept money that was due to the old club (and thus the administrator) and the administrator had to launch legal action to get some of it back
3. He made several agreements on various issues with the administrator and reneged on just about all of them
The reports don't make good reading for Bulls fans TBH.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "You know that if I say SL clubs were greedy, there isn't much point in you saying 'NO SL CLUBS WERE GREEDY' I'm not sure what the caps added'"
They added that it was the owners NOT the fans that took the money ,did any give it back? Mr Caddick perhaps? , or that nice Mr Moran?
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| Quote: Starbug "They added that it was the owners NOT the fans that took the money ,did any give it back? Mr Caddick perhaps? , or that nice Mr Moran?'"
I haven't blamed any fans, they have no control over it. I simply said the only people who supported it were those who financially benefitted from it and the sad bitter fans of lesser clubs who like to take pleasure in the struggles of one of the traditional big clubs. Like you.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I haven't blamed any fans, they have no control over it. I simply said the only people who supported it were those who financially benefitted from it and the sad bitter fans of lesser clubs who like to take pleasure in the struggles of one of the traditional big clubs. Like you.'"
I dont think anyone is taking pleasure in this, I for one would much prefer a Bradsford ala of 96 - 2004 than this
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I dont think anyone is taking pleasure in this, I for one would much prefer a Bradsford ala of 96 - 2004 than this'"
I agree, but eventually any club has to face up to the financial reality of its position, Bradford currently ( and for several years ) have been playing above what they can afford, sooner or later that has to end, as other clubs have had to
As regards the various administrations old and new, well it seems they are all as bad as one another
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| Quote: Starbug "I agree, but eventually any club has to face up to the financial reality of its position, Bradford currently ( and for several years ) have been playing above what they can afford, sooner or later that has to end, as other clubs have had to
As regards the various administrations old and new, well it seems they are all as bad as one another'"
Your premise assumes that Bradford are only in this situation because they pay too much to players. This assumption is naive in the extreme
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I dont think anyone is taking pleasure in this, I for one would much prefer a Bradsford ala of 96 - 2004 than this'"
I wouldn't bet on it. Sadly.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Your premise assumes that Bradford are only in this situation because they pay too much to players. This assumption is naive in the extreme'"
I assume they are spending more than they earn, exactly where I couldnt care less ,but it would seem they've been doing it for most of the licencing era, which is doubly stupid
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Your premise assumes that Bradford are only in this situation because they pay too much to players. This assumption is naive in the extreme'"
If they're spending it on anything else, they're properly mad!
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