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Quote: vastman "Nt against Australia we didn't, lets not pretend.'"


who is pretending, the facts speak for themselves

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Quote: vastman "Oh give up with the campy Dr Evil talk, your fooling no one. You're just a sad ar*e who gets there kicks playing what they see as oh so funny mind games.

I suggest you get out and get laid, who or what with is of no concern to me.'"


Am I. Oh dear icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: The Clan "So now that Hull FC have completed the signing of Sam Moa are we to expect a barrage of criticism toward the Hull FC club.

For the record Moa is about the same age but played less NRL games last year than Winterstein.'"


yes, Hull shouldnt be signing players the quality of Moa, they should be looking at a higher quality,

however Hull themselves mitigate the the criticism by having only 5 other overseas players rather than 10

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Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Name 3 openly transfer listed RL forwards of FW's quality.


There is no-one about!!!

We have a policy of buying british, we have a larger number of local lads in our team Vs Hudd, and i dare say a few better prospects than any local lads in your ranks. Jay Pitts for one my friend.
However when times need you must buy, and due to VERY unfortunate things happening to players (namely forwards) at our club we have been forced to make a signing which will give our squad greater depth, and of course quality otherwise why waste the money?
Why you feel the need to take out your own issues with the home office through slagging off another team is beyond me.'"


thats fine, but why not release/sell one of the other 10 you have to balance the books as it were?

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Quote: Marsdengiant "You obviously have difficulty thinking. You cannot understand the differnce between signing a reserve grade player and signing a player who was a reserve grade player many years ago who has since played many 1st grade games icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: tb "He is.



But thanks Hudds for taking him off our hands.'"


he is, absolutely,

but he also has the same pedigree as Frank Winterstein, 8 first grade appearances in Aus and a couple of Schoolboy caps

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Quote: tb "He is.



But thanks Hudds for taking him off our hands.'"


No worries. if korki goes only 25% as well as Scotty Moore we will be well pleased with him as a back up prop.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Try not to put words in my mouth. i never said anything like your first para.

I agree that many oveseas players may hold back youngsters. Do you have the integrity to condemn your own club for going this.And for doing it with a reserve grader. on wigan 'cast offs' I see Gleeson is going well for you. I am delighted he is getting 1st team rugby.

I have not 'slagged' off wakey in this thread. I have said that taking on a reserve grade NRL guy is poor. Hardly slagging off - not where i come from.'"


OK, you never said it was OK for Wigan, but you don't appear to be slagging them off for their policy which has not been brought about by the same desperate situation as Wakey have got. They have much more choice and a much bigger pull with youngsters or British based players but they still recruit from down under.

I don't personally think that we are holding youngsters back at Wakey. I am disappointed we have had to go to the NRL for a player but until anyone has seen him play how can you say he has nothing to offer in terms of making an impact or helping other players develop.

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Quote: Fordy "

I don't personally think that we are holding youngsters back at Wakey. I am disappointed we have had to go to the NRL for a player but until anyone has seen him play how can you say he has nothing to offer in terms of making an impact or helping other players develop.'"


you may not be, but clearly your not making enough of an effor to find them

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Quote: SmokeyTA "yes, Hull shouldnt be signing players the quality of Moa, they should be looking at a higher quality,

however Hull themselves mitigate the the criticism by having only 5 other overseas players rather than 10'"


Hull have a much larger catchment area, have been in SL longer than Wakefield, Have the KC stadium which offers much greater facilities than Belle Vue and when they signed Moa they were still expecting Crocker so at the time this decision was made they had six overseas players.

I'm not going to criticise Hull as they, like Wakefield, have a good youth development programme. Whats important here is that the clubs are moving in the right direction overall.

Wakefields youth programme is unrecognisable from the one they ran 5 years ago, it's more professional, wider reaching, has greater diversity, employs more and better qualified staff and perhaps most importantly it caters well for those who don't make the grade as well as those that do.

Like Trinity most clubs will need to bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality all subject to the circumstances prevailing at the time.

What's important is that each and every clubs youth programme is heading in the right direction. One day we might start exporting our talent in greater numbers than we import overseas talent.

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Quote: The Clan "Hull have a much larger catchment area, have been in SL longer than Wakefield, Have the KC stadium which offers much greater facilities than Belle Vue and when they signed Moa they were still expecting Crocker so at the time this decision was made they had six overseas players.'"


6 is still much less than 11,

and Wakefield dont need you to make excuses and patronise them, they are an SL club like the others, and can have the same high standards demanded of them,

Quote: The Clan "I'm not going to criticise Hull as they, like Wakefield, have a good youth development programme. Whats important here is that the clubs are moving in the right direction overall.

Wakefields youth programme is unrecognisable from the one they ran 5 years ago, it's more professional, wider reaching, has greater diversity, employs more and better qualified staff and perhaps most importantly it caters well for those who don't make the grade as well as those that do.'"


where is the evidence wakefield are 'getting there'? where is the evidence that Wakefields youth development programme is now good enough, and will allow wakefield to sustain themselves and make a real contribution to the league?

Quote: The Clan "Like Trinity most clubs will need to bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality all subject to the circumstances prevailing at the time.

What's important is that each and every clubs youth programme is heading in the right direction. One day we might start exporting our talent in greater numbers than we import overseas talent'"


most clubs? how many other clubs are looking at bringing over their 11th overseas player for the season?

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