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| Quote: ISpeaksProperEnglish "Why should Sky Sports report on the RLWC? For its audience the big thing of the Autumn kicked off at exactly the same time as England played Ireland. Why should they promote something which could potentially cost them? They probably would have reported something if something exceptional happened for instance if Hock got booted out this week or if the score against Ireland was a world record score. They never do any build up for the football matches shown on BT Sport but for theirs it is on every bulletin (by that I mean it will be shown immediately after a commercial break).
Would BBC advertise Coronation Street and ITV Eastenders?'"
I don't think anyone is suggesting they 'advertise' the rlwc. But a sports news channel and now the bulletin on rolling news are simply hiding the fact there is a world cup happening at the moment. Watching now there is ice hockey, NBA and NFL reported.
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| Simple answer
YES, THEY ARE, and it is childish and pathetic, something the BBC have been accused of many times in the past
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| Quote: Brid B&W "The football world cup is in that group like the challenge cup final so has to be on free to air i believe so will be split between BBC and ITV'"
Didn't the parliamentary group help push Virgin into taking on Premier Sports? Hopefully the next step, if we can build sufficient momentum, is to get the RLWC onto that list too.
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| Quote: Starbug "Simple answer
YES, THEY ARE, and it is childish and pathetic, something the BBC have been accused of many times in the past'"
Totally agree with you on this one, I'm a Rugby League fan who pays SKY around £80 a month in subscriptions and I expect their Sports News channel to report on major sporting events whether they have the broadcast rights to it or not.
I feel pretty let down by their attitude toward Rugby League at present, it's a sport they now seem to take for granted. The increase in production values has not kept pace with other sports , they show little interest in refreshing their main commentary team despite almost universal dissatisfaction with Eddie & Stevo, there's little in terms of promotion compared with other sports, their magazine/leaflet advertising rarely includes images of Rugby League and we are under represented in their SKY Sports montage clips.
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| Quote: jeffvickers "The Beeb don't mention you can watch the rest of the RLWC on Premier Sports.'"
I don't think anyone on here is saying they should tell you where you can watch the games, just that they should report on what's happening. The impression is that Sky's news values are being distorted by their commercial interests. The Beeb report on what's going on elsewhere in the RLWC. Sky seem to be deliberately ignoring it.
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| Quote: The Clan "Totally agree with you on this one, I'm a Rugby League fan who pays SKY around £80 a month in subscriptions and I expect their Sports News channel to report on major sporting events whether they have the broadcast rights to it or not.
I feel pretty let down by their attitude toward Rugby League at present, it's a sport they now seem to take for granted. The increase in production values has not kept pace with other sports , they show little interest in refreshing their main commentary team despite almost universal dissatisfaction with Eddie & Stevo, there's little in terms of promotion compared with other sports, their magazine/leaflet advertising rarely includes images of Rugby League and we are under represented in their SKY Sports montage clips.'"
Their dogged stubborness in keep eddie and stevo is sickening. They need to go.
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| Quote: joeo "The impression is that Sky's news values are being distorted by their commercial interests.'"
Of course they are. Sky sports news is less of a news channel and more of an infomercial for their main four sports channels
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| Quote: Dunbar "Sky sports news is less of a news channel and more of an infomercial for their main four sports channels'"
1. I'm focussing on the sports news sections on Sky News. They are deliberately ignoring the RLWC. Somebody in that organisation has taken this decision and I'd like to know who it is. (They are happily reporting news of, for example, the track cycling world cup - even though that is actually being covered by BBC2).
2. I'm sure their sports presenters realise this and some of them will feel their journalistic professionalism impugned.
3. I hope Sky News doesn't expect to win any more industry awards unless this approach is corrected fast.
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Quote: Bovrick "Didn't the parliamentary group help push Virgin into taking on Premier Sports? Hopefully the next step, if we can build sufficient momentum, is to get the RLWC onto that list too.'"
Not sure but just googled the list and found this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom_Co ... ted_Events
I know its wikipedia but linked to ofcom site. Says only RUWC final is protected so be a long shot to get the whole tournament protected
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Quote: Bovrick "Didn't the parliamentary group help push Virgin into taking on Premier Sports? Hopefully the next step, if we can build sufficient momentum, is to get the RLWC onto that list too.'"
Not sure but just googled the list and found this
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom_Co ... ted_Events
I know its wikipedia but linked to ofcom site. Says only RUWC final is protected so be a long shot to get the whole tournament protected
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| Quote: Mr Churchill "1. I'm focussing on the sports news sections on Sky News. They are deliberately ignoring the RLWC. Somebody in that organisation has taken this decision and I'd like to know who it is. (
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This is more serious than I thought. To hear that editorial decisions on the sports channel are determined by commercial considerations is worrying enough but here you're saying it percolates into the main news channel. Isn't it a condition of their licence that they report fairly? Doesn't it reflect badly on the professionalism of the main channel as a whole? Do they have a regulator? Has it any teeth?
Quote: Mr Churchill " Somebody in that organisation has taken this decision and I'd like to know who it is. (
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How do we find out?
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| Quote: Brid B&W "Not sure but just googled the list and found this
I believe, but don't quote me as being sure, that the IRB dictate a certain amount of where/when/by whom when it comes to their RWC. No doubt that Uncle Rupert could outbid ITV for the rights, but it's whether the IRB want the audience potential limited. Didn't they get 6,000,000 or something on ITV for Wales's Sunday morning Semi-final in 2011? I know they got 17,000,000 in France for the Final and that was on FTA.
IMG were sold the rights and none of us know if there were any demands/requests around FTA coverage in certain countries....the important thing for RLWC organisers was the money and that's why Premiere got the job.
Best we can hope for is if the BBC see the benefits this time around, get decent figures for their "am" games in 2017 and bid again for the rights moving ahead.
We got 120k here in NZ at 8am for the Kiwis game this weekend just gone.......given Kiwis like to lie-in on Saturday/Sunday mornings, that's not too shabby
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| Isn't it understandable that a commercial organisation may decide not to promote something that would help its competitors? Ch 9 here also downplays the World Cup, as do all the News Ltd papers as far as I can tell.
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| Quote: gutterfax "I believe, but don't quote me as being sure, that the IRB dictate a certain amount of where/when/by whom when it comes to their RWC. No doubt that Uncle Rupert could outbid ITV for the rights, but it's whether the IRB want the audience potential limited. Didn't they get 6,000,000 or something on ITV for Wales's Sunday morning Semi-final in 2011? I know they got 17,000,000 in France for the Final and that was on FTA.
IMG were sold the rights and none of us know if there were any demands/requests around FTA coverage in certain countries....the important thing for RLWC organisers was the money and that's why Premiere got the job.
Best we can hope for is if the BBC see the benefits this time around, get decent figures for their "am" games in 2017 and bid again for the rights moving ahead.
We got 120k here in NZ at 8am for the Kiwis game this weekend just gone.......given Kiwis like to lie-in on Saturday/Sunday mornings, that's not too shabby'"
I am with you and that NZ figure isn't bad but my point was all the football world cup is protected but only the final in the RUWC. We have a long way to go to get protected status.
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| Only place sky feel it is in the pockets I have also cancelled sky sports and when asked said lack of rugby, qualifying it after listening to th RU list as RL
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Isn't it understandable that a commercial organisation may decide not to promote something that would help its competitors? Ch 9 here also downplays the World Cup, as do all the News Ltd papers as far as I can tell.'"
It is. But if they want to run a news channel it has to be impartial or it's not allowed to broadcast. It's why Fox News weren't allowed to setup a UK news channel.
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