I'm not doubting the logic you've applied in terms of the most likely road to England winning the RLWC. They aren't going to beat Australia twice... not even the most ardent "Our forwards are miles better than Aussie forwards" brigade can envisage England beating Australia twice in the same tournament. I'm merely pointing out that not beating Australia when it really counts is a hurdle we haven't managed to overcome since 1970 and beating them at Cardiff in a few weeks time definitely does not fall into the category of a must-win game which really counts.

What has this got to do with the scenario we are discussing. Looks like you are just reverting to type

SBW last played for the kiwis in 2007 (I think)
Since then they have won the WC and four nations. They are a different animal now.



NZ v.s OZ competitive? Australia are well known for flopping against the kiwis in finals. 2006 last time Australia beat NZ when it really counts



In all seriousness I can't believe you wouldn't go if England got there. Even if Australia have 17 better players than us (which they certainly don't now), we COULD still win. That's why makes RL one of the best sports.

Take the GF, hardly anyone thought Wigan would win. If you want it enough and believe you can win, anything can happen.

It is worth remembering that there are a number of people on these boards who don't actually want England to win as it will upset their personal agenda

I'd pay to watch the World Cup Final even if Vanatu were playing Niue... wouldn't miss it for anything!

You do know they have sold 50,000 tickets already so what c**p are you spouting about 20 to 30,000.

Was the poster not being hypothetical?

Why would you not attend/want to attend, the biggest game between the best two sides?

Stop picking on William!!

This^^^
75,000 will roar on the finalists regardless of who they are.....if England make it I suspect ebay will see a fair few tickets shifted at silly prices.

I will be at the RLWC final in 2017 regardless of who is playing.......probably taking 5 weeks off to attend as many games as possible.

Ordered my tickets for final in December,cant wait,would love it to be England versus the Kiwis.
Not that bothered who gets to the final,it should be a fantastic occaision.

We have every chance of making the final and for the price of tickets, I'm not overly concerned if we don't make it. The alternative will still be a fantastic game.