Well Smokey you've peddled this twaddle for the past ten years - as they say if you chuck enough darts at a dartboard you will eventually get a bullseye (though probably not this time).

Can't get over Poore making Bailey cry like a baby can you By what logic Kaufusi over Poore

Rodney over Kirmond is spectacularly out, unless you have based it on a reputation gained years ago.

Antonio Kaufusi is an NRL winning, SoO winning Australian international who has played in 2 NRL grand finals and a World Club Challenge.

By what logic have you decided that Justin Poore is a better player?

Or can we file under VASTY’S BIASED NONSENSE like how Ben Jeffries was a hugely better player than ‘fatty Mcguire’?

Rodney was a GF winner the year before last

Correct!

Also a member of that Manly 2011 grand final winning team was current London winger Michael Robertson.

The same current London winger Michael Robertson was a member of and top try scorer (3 tries) in Manly's 2008 Grand Final demolition of Melbourne Storm. In the same Manly 2008 GF winning team was current London prop Mark Bryant.

Rodney also was in a grand final winning team in 2003 (Penrith), the same team which had Australian international Craig Gower as scrum half and captain.

Tongan born Antonio Kaufusi played for Melbourne Storm in their 2006 and 2008 Grand Final defeats.

Thus London Broncos is now full of NRL Grand Final experience (Gower, Robertson, Rodney, Kaufusi, Bryant).

Any competent judge of rugby league would have to conclude that the contest for the title of best scrum half in Super League is between Scott Dureau and Craig Gower.

If Tim Smith picks up where he left off last season, I think he'd be a viable competitor in that particular contest; the issue for all three I suppose is the quality of the players around them - Scott Dureau probably wins out in that regard.

I am looking forward to seeing Tim Smith up against Dureau and Gower in 2013.

I agree that Catalans Dragons is a stronger team than London Broncos, though how much better we will have to wait and see with the advent of Tony Rea as London coach, and Laurent Frayyssinous and David Waite as the coach and deputy coach at Catalans.

Also we have to see how Ferriol's retirement will affect Catalans.

I think that the clash of the two teams, London and Catalans, on the neutral ground at Manchester on the Magique Weekend will be very interesting.

Comparing Tim Swith with Craig Gower?



Barry is right for once, Smith isn't anywhere near Gower's class.

I think the value of the loling emoticon is significantly undervalued in critical argument.

Why does a players past have anything to do with it, Kirmond was one of the stand out second rowers last season and for him not to even get a knights look in is a joke.
If London make the playoffs it will be from the bottom half of the table, i'm pretty confident about that.

i always thought the Broncos squad from 2012 looked great on paper and should be above us (Wakey) for example, based on past reputations etc.

"Him" is about right, although i don't agree with every comparison. However he is a neutral and i am not. I may sway towards (or indeed against) Wakefield players because i see them every week and only see the Broncos players occasionally or on highlights.

As for the thread, just about every club should be "top 8 material" at the start of the season - its hardly a stark revelation.