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| Quote: vastman "Westwood, the only British forward capable of playing in the NRL who isn't already there.'"
The fact that Luke Burgess is playing there suggests there are quite a few British forwards who are more than 'capable'. Hock and Roby for starters...
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| Quote: vastman "Westwood, the only British forward capable of playing in the NRL who isn't already there. Tomkins is still a great player and the best entertainer in SL but that for me isn't the essence of the MOS award.'"
Wakey reject.
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "The fact that Luke Burgess is playing there suggests there are quite a few British forwards who are more than 'capable'. Hock and Roby for starters...'"
do you watch NRL?
luke burgess has been ripping it up when hes played. IMHO he has played better than sam this year
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| Quote: NickyKiss "... and other guys like Roby, Westwood and Briers have been excellent in spells but Tomkins has been pretty spot on from the start to date...'"
Roby is the most consistent player in the league, easily, and his stats back that up.
For MoS, I would have:
1) Tomkins
2) Westwood
3) Roby
Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise really, they have been the best players this season.
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "do you watch NRL?
luke burgess has been ripping it up when hes played. IMHO he has played better than sam this year'"
I think the point he was trying to make is that if a player like Luke who wasn't rated particulary highly in this country (although I've always rated him) can go over there and do well a few others could.
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| Quote: Albion "Roby is the most consistent player in the league, easily, and his stats back that up.
For MoS, I would have
Robys stats don't back anything up at all, he plays 80 minutes most weeks at Hooker, no wonder he stats are through the roof.
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| Quote: vastman "Westwood, the only British forward capable of playing in the NRL who isn't already there. Tomkins is still a great player and the best entertainer in SL but that for me isn't the essence of the MOS award.'"
I would throw Gareth Hock into that as well, the aussies never liked playing against him for GB and i doubt they would now either.
James Roby could play in the NRL for sure imo but a hooker isnt really a proper forward in todays game!!
MoS lost all meaning when Pat Richards won it imo, scoring 15 walk ins and 15 from kicks does not constitute a MoS award even if you are a good kicker.
He could have won back of the year because of that but definitley not MoS imo!!
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| Quote: Coventry Bears "Robys stats don't back anything up at all, he plays 80 minutes most weeks at Hooker, no wonder he stats are through the roof.'"
So do a lot of hookers. They still don't come anywhere near Roby's stats.
On the subject of forwards that could make it in the NRL... most of them could if they have the aggression and determination. The most underrated prop in the league for me is Carvell at Wire, always seems to drive it in with great speed and power.
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| Westwood.
I don't remember seeing much of Tomkins for the last few months, although now I think about it he did do a lot of whining at the ref when Wire tore them a new one a few weeks back.
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| Kevin Sinfield
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if you were picking a team of the most consistently excellent players over the last five years, they'd all be in it. It's nothing short of a disgrace that they've never been awarded MoS. Particularly wrong being Sinfield for Farrell in 05, and the procession of beaten St Helens players in 07/08/09.
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| Quote: just_browny "I don't remember seeing much of Tomkins for the last few months'"
Yea he's only scored 12 tries in the last 7 games lol
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Yea he's only scored 12 tries in the last 7 games lol'"
Flat-track matches don't tend to be televised as much.
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| Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "Kevin Sinfield
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
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if you were picking a team of the most consistently excellent players over the last five years, they'd all be in it. It's nothing short of a disgrace that they've never been awarded MoS. Particularly wrong being Sinfield for Farrell in 05, and the procession of beaten St Helens players in 07/08/09.'"
Leeds have been a very succesful team, and Sinny has often stated that individual honours don't really matter.
Rather see Leeds win the GF all these years than a player pick up MOS.
For my money, Westwood deserves it, but it's probably written into Ratboys contract with SL & Wigan that he wins it.
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