I've never seen such an increase in a clubs youth development side of things in four years either.

AFAIK Leeds had to choose between Scruton or Burgess on who to keep. They made the right call given how good burgess was playing at the time.

p.s. If Glenn Hall is quality, he better start showing it and fecking soon!

He was alot better than Lynch on sunday, and no-one doubts Lynch's quality.

Scrutons not a bad player but he's no JP or Fielden in his pomp

Only on points difference though

Glenn Hall is a plodder. He was a Bulldogs junior who couldn't cut it, went to Souths in their worst days and was a squad player, got released and spent 2006 in Premier League, filling in twice for the Roosters during Origin before finding a niche at Manly because of the salary cap. He's an NRL equivalent of Ian Kirke, he's not 'quality' by any means and the fact that he has been talked up as a big player for Bradford pretty much sums up the club at the moment.

IMO the bulls will make the play offs(just). I know they look very poor at the moment but if they sort it out they have got a ok team.

They look in urgent need of a stand off. They also have few new players who need to settle in to the bulls system.

Im going for them to finish 7th or 8th.

Minimal options there pal, i would say top 8.

System? You are giving our "coach" way too much credit there.

Bradfords problem is a combination of Iestyn Harris and the Caisley era.

It left the Bulls short of Wonga big time and they have succeeded quite well IMHO to maintain there competetivenesss to a certain degree. The debts racked up then have hit the club hard and slowly they are coming right, it is not going to happen this season. They will be back and NO CLUB has a god given right to in the top two or even the top eight. The Aussies have an up and down culture and its time that British fans of the game excepted it nearly every team is there for a minimum of three years. I enjoy watching the game and I like many have seen our teams beaten by a team in good form that are a joy to watch.

FC have had a torrid time in the last two seasons, but the crowds have remained bouyant and hopefully the climb back is well underway. Wigan where on verge of leaving the league at one point until Nobby and co got them out of the mire. There crowds remained good throughout and they are slowly coming back into the lime light. The big four only know exists in the minds of the sky muppets and a few half wits who prevade this place.

We do not want one team dominating the comp like in the 80/90s that nearly destroyed the game. Hopefully we will have a different team at Old Trafford and winning every year for the next twelve years, now would be good for the game?

I've watched the highlights on super league TV and st helens looked a much stronger, fitter, skillful and more hungry team.

Bradford looked sluggish and average.

Theres no way they'll make the top 8...IMO. You have about 4 maybe 5 teams now that are dead set title contenders and good enough to go all the way then you have the likes of cas that are constantly giving the title contenders headaches and sniffing around the upper part of the table.

So many well drilled, skill full and tough teams now.

Bradford just aint cutting the mustard.

3 teams have won all but 1 of the 14 titles on offer.

Leeds have won 3 titles on the trot and 4 from the last 6.

same teams in last 3 grand finals.

we have a way to go yet.

I take it you're still couinting Leeds in that when they've lost the last two aswell, and looked sluggish & average (especially in the Cas game)

That's how i see him TBH.