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Quote: Dally "www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/rugby-league/99262289/
Seems like RLWC in news.'"


icon_lol.gif might just be doing their christmas shopping!


on that last play.... fifita knocked on... like mcgillvary moments before, they played on though as tonga got the ball baacl for that one... at least the ref was being consistent and correct with both decisions.

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Quote: Seth "Just watched it back including the JM strip and Bennetts thoughts after. Firstly, I think it's a loose carry from fifita. The strip on JM goes backwards towards the Tongan line so fine to play on, though Bennett alludes to this incident to back up the no try, and he's wrong. If as he says both were stripped, both went back and both were play on which would have meant play on to fifita regathering and scoring.'"


They can't [iboth[/i be stripped if the advantage is gained by Tonga in both instances.
You'd have to suggest one or the other is a loose carry, for me, they both were.
Dunno what Wilkin is talking about, would Fifita's try have been given in SL, no idea, its pretty borderline and nowhere near the shoe-in he says it is.
On the whole, the WC has been a breath of fresh air, its served to highlight everything that is 5h1te about SL reffing, the influence of manufactured penalties, grappling and general fannying about at the pob have been robbing us of our entertaining game for too long.

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I agree though in bennetts interview he seems to suggest both were stripped. Either way, it would have been sent up as no try and stayed the same without sufficient evidence to overturn.

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You've got to feel for that Fajita bloke. Not good enough for superleague so he has to play in some foreign league that's on TV on an obscure cable channel no one has heard of. Whilst watching his brother play in super league (I know it's only field and he probably won't come back because his wife might get sent down but still). Then isnt good enough to play for Australia so has to pretend to be a tongalese in order to play in the World Cup. To cap it off drops the ball in the last minute of the semi final when he has a chance to win it and go to the final!

As for the protests they are just showing themselves up. I wonder if they'll still be Tongans or will go back to being Kiwis when it's the next Four Nations and Pacific Cup?

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Quote: Upanunder "They can't [iboth[/i be stripped if the advantage is gained by Tonga in both instances.
You'd have to suggest one or the other is a loose carry, for me, they both were.
Dunno what Wilkin is talking about, would Fifita's try have been given in SL, no idea, its pretty borderline and nowhere near the shoe-in he says it is.
On the whole, the WC has been a breath of fresh air, its served to highlight everything that is 5h1te about SL reffing, the influence of manufactured penalties, grappling and general fannying about at the pob have been robbing us of our entertaining game for too long.'"


agree with that ! hopefully the sl refs take note!! but they will fall back into their old ways ruining the game no doubt icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "You've got to feel for that Fajita bloke. Not good enough for superleague'"


Are you really saying a S.O.O. player & G.F. winner isn't good enough for S.L?

Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I know it's only field'"


Oh, I see what you did there - genius!

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Quote: Call Me God "rlhttps://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/42121782rl

...you were saying?

Epic game and so glad I went up in the end.......there are about 60,000 Tongans in Auckland and half of them were at Mt Smart. The singing in the second half was amazing....let's hope that the Pacific Cup happens with the PI's and Kiwis playing more regularly.'"


Hey BOZO, the players are PRAISING the atmosphere. They were cheered by tongan fans.

It wasn't intimidating as was claimed it would be.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Hey BOZO, the players are PRAISING the atmosphere. They were cheered by tongan fans.

It wasn't intimidating as was claimed it would be.'"


England prop James Grahamsome hostile atmospheres and some great crowds - the first game back at the new Wembley and all that - but never anything like this before.
Quote: FlexWheeler "'"

The Tongans were cheering the Tongans.......I didn't see one Tongan fan cheer the English and I was there......!

It's all kicked off in Auckland now with the Tongan community taking to the streets en-masse to protest being robbed by the referee...Lead story on news bulletins here d040.gif

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A couple of the pundits here said that Tonga 'deserved' to win. Utter cobblers. England played Bennett style for 70 minutes and were clearly the better team. Had England not decided they'd won the game and it was time to think about the final that would probably have ended up 20-0.

As it was England took their foot off the gas, Tonga got a sniff and all of a sudden England's defence looks like a bunch of Under 9s, with players bunched and chasing the ball individually. There was one point near the end when Tonga moved the ball right where they were tackled, and anybody could see that they were going to try to move it left fast in the next tackle, but England's entire team were barley spread past the centre of the field. They were so congested there they had no chance to properly slide as a unit.

If I were Bennett I'd be very disappointed in the fact that none of the senior players took charge and got the team to regroup, especially after Tonga's second try. If we had as bad a five minute spell as that at any time vs Aus we'll also let in 2-3 tries.

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Quote: Call Me God "I am just poiting out that after you claimed England players would have experienced more pressurised situations, they almost folded in that last 10 minutes......'"

If it takes 70 minutes to take hold, it can hardly be called intimidating. icon_lol.gif

All those moving hymns must have been terrifying for the poor English lambs. eusa_eh.gif

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Quote: Cronus "If it takes 70 minutes to take hold, it can hardly be called intimidating. Indeed.....except where I was sat there wasn't much hymn singing going on during the game and regardless of when England decided to fold, they did fold for the last 10 minutes or so.....the occasion got to them and the crowd were part of the occasion!

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Quote: Call Me God "Indeed.....except where I was sat there wasn't much hymn singing going on during the game and regardless of when England decided to fold, they did fold for the last 10 minutes or so.....fatigue got to them and the crowd were part of the occasion!'"

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