It's quite noticable that the only people defending this 'tackle' are Cas fans. That tells you all you need to know.

Is this definitely how it works these days? i.e. they can't count not playing for the U20s on the blank weekends? Otherwise a 2 or 4 match ban would only count for half as many SL games.

Errr... yes it is far worse!

Moa was a perfectly legal attempt at a shoulder barge that was mis-timed by a second and caught Rinaldi on the shoulder and side of the face. It was very debatable that it was even a red, and in the face of it was by far the least serious of the 3 incidents here (yet the only one punished at the game).

Chris Bridge's was bad, should have got a red, but didn't hit the player's face, and it wasn't at full pace. But should have been a longer ban for deliberate use of the elbow.

Then you need to start watching another game. Pro sport is as cynical as it comes - taking key players out is a legitimate if distasteful part of the game. These guys do this for living!!

Chase had his feet off the ground and his elbow above his shoulder at impact - he only had one intention that was to hit Ropati in the face with his elbow. It is the worst I have seen since Mick Cassidy's elbow on Adrian Morley. Good tackling technique will stop a player - you don't need shoulder charging to stop a player - we should be encouraging good tackling and as such shoulder charging should be eliminated from the game.

Are you for real? Seriously, the look on Chase's face says it all after he's "done him"

It was a sick challenge and one that warrants at least an 8 match ban IMO, thats what Cassidy got in 1998 for something very similar.

From one angle you can see that Chase always intends to hurt his opponent, his arm doesn't stop raising and he actually jumps into the tackle, his feet are off the ground whilst his elbow is in his face.

The other angle shows that although initial contact isn't in the face, he can see his opponent yet still raises his arm into his face and you see his elbow flick out after there is no longer resistance from his opponents face. Chase watched his elbow break his jaw, he knew what he was doing.

He then stands over him looking at what he's done with his chest puffed out and fist clenched, much like the iconic Muhammad Ali photo;

No Cas fan is 'defending it'. We have all said he should be banned. It's just some of the ridiculous comments made by people that we are arguing.

how many matches do you get for a Grade C offence as it has been described by RFL ?
how many for a grade A ? ferriol stuck a knee in the tackle and got an A

Ridiculous comments? You're certainly fighting fire with fire then.

How Fooking blind are you lot.

The distance that chases arm comes away from his body is what differentiates it from the moa tackle and the bridge one is a cowardly cheap shot but has nowhere near the force or connection as does Chases.

If this was a Giants player i would have no problem with 6 or 8 games.

I have yet to see any evidence that it was not forearm / elbow to the face

May I suggest you read what I posted again?

The key words are 'didn't look anything like a tackle.'
Not 'There has been only one Cas fan who has said that it wasn't a high tackle - ONE.' as it was in no way a tackle it was a thugish act.
Only Cas fans seem to be missing this key point.

Well them and the spineless RFL panel of course.

What is also disturbing is the fact that no penalty was awarded. It was so obvious and the BBC repeated the incident quickly but there was little if any mention by the commentators either. It makes you wonder about the sport when the referee, touch judge and 2 commentators fail to spot such a blatant incident, these are supposed to be the professional and "expert" people in Rugby League, no wonder the game is in such a mess.

Sorry it was Sky TV that showed the replay quickly.

I would hope that Chase is harangued at every ground by fans of every club for what he's done to the lads jaw. It was the most cowardly of shots since Terry Newtons on Sean Long, it has no part in our game. Ryan Bailey received a 3 match ban for pushing Silverwood out of the way to effect a tackle, it will be interesting to see how a smashed jaw and possibly a lifetime of pain and arthritis compares in the RFL's book.

I cannot believe after 25 pages, with evidence to disprove your point of view, that you are still trying to defend this thug. You are a disgrace my good friend, and should hang your head in shame. And hope that something like this doesn't happen to you on the street. At which point I hope i'm in a position to note that 'The first contact came off the shoulder'.