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| Quote: cadoo "Lockers is out of the Four Nations. He needs an operation.
Cracking side that. The best side (on paper) we've had for a good while.'"
Have you got a link for that? Squad announced is:
Squad: Darren Lockyer, Corey Parker, Sam Thaiday, Jharal Yow Yeh (Brisbane), David Shillington (Canberra), Paul Gallen (Cronulla), Daly Cherry-Evans, Brett Stewart, Glenn Stewart, Anthony Watmough, Tony Williams (Manly), Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater, Cameron Smith (Melbourne), Akuila Uate (Newcastle), Matt Scott, Johnathan Thurston (North Queensland), Luke Lewis (Penrith), Darius Boyd (St George), Greg Inglis, David Taylor (South Sydney), Keith Galloway, Robbie Farah, Chris Lawrence (Wests)
Those unhappy with the purity of any England win may wish to note the Fijian Akuila Uate, Tony Williams who has played for Tonga and Robbie Farrah who has played for Lebanon.
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| I wonder if cricket, soccer and RU fans do as much hand wringing and moaning as RL fans do? Seems many people just wait for an excuse to stop supporting the game
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| Quote: rhintintin "Have you got a link for that? Squad announced is
Uate - Brought up in Aus from a kid and Aussie schoolboy international.
Williams & Farrah both Aussie born & bred.
Yes they played for other nations, but LESSER nations at the start of their career? So England are on a par with Tonga, Fiji and Lebannon... ACE.
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| Quote: Chorlton RL "With Sinfield at 13, O'Loughlin at 16 and Burrows at 17, yes. That would be my starting line up at the moment though it will probably change.
Bring on the Four Nations!!'"
So we're now playing him at 7 giving us no directing half back? Brilliant call.
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| It's ridiculous picking Chase for the England squad. What kind of message does that send out to up and coming English talent, e.g. Lomax? So what if the players that get picked are not necessarily as good as the NZ/Aus counterparts... the answer isn't to pick NZ/Aus players!
It's a fecking joke.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "That's quite true, though aussies can muddle things up a bit. A few years ago when some realised that people were playing for them that weren't actually Australians, they added the plot lines "brought up" "trained here" etc., which is fine for them, but they also forget that there's a lot of people who have been scouted by NRL clubs and other ogranisations at an early age. These players are erroneously seen as being brought up or trained in oz. Even Benji Marshall was "offered" a scholarship to play for a QLD high school, which is why he came over here. As a schoolboy he played for Oz, because that's where he went to school, obviously. He chose to play for his own country, despite the Australians being interested. Good for him.
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At least with the Aussies now though they are trying to hold up the select a nation and deal with it for a minimum a year if not until the next world cup.
I guess the muddled up bit is that Rangi Chase in playing for the exiles effectively selected NZ but as not an official international test can change.
But again I raise the Q I thought at the start of each season when players registered they had to select a nation? Or is this non-official. As I say it's partly the exiles / maori within last 12 months that makes this ridiculous!
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| Quote: J20 "At least with the Aussies now though they are trying to hold up the select a nation and deal with it for a minimum a year if not until the next world cup.
I guess the muddled up bit is that Rangi Chase in playing for the exiles effectively selected NZ but as not an official international test can change.
But again I raise the Q I thought at the start of each season when players registered they had to select a nation? Or is this non-official. As I say it's partly the exiles / maori within last 12 months that makes this ridiculous!'"
You seem to be confusing the overseas/fed-trained rules (which are determined by where you're from and where you played your early professional rugby league) with the entirely separate international eligibility rules.
Chase has not represented any other country in a rugby league international. Neither had Fa'asavalu when he was selected for England.
Uate, Williams and Farah have all played international rugby league for someone other than Australia - see also Tonie Carroll, the biggest embarrassment of all.
Pick a country, declare for it and stick with it. Once you've represented one country in a full international at senior level you should not be able to change horses mid-stream - I stand to be proved wrong, but I don't think any other major sport (e.g football, cricket, rugby union etc) allows you to do this?
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| Quote: flatcap "It's ridiculous picking Chase for the England squad. What kind of message does that send out to up and coming English talent, e.g. Lomax? So what if the players that get picked are not necessarily as good as the NZ/Aus counterparts... the answer isn't to pick NZ/Aus players!
It's a fecking joke.'"
If Lomax was as good as Chase, he would get picked over him. As it is, he isn't, therefore it's not an issue.
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| Quote: flatcap "What kind of message does that send out to up and coming English talent?'"
"You're good, but to play for England you have to be the best."
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| Quote: cadoo "Lockers is out of the Four Nations. He needs an operation.
Cracking side that. The best side (on paper) we've had for a good while.'"
Aye, I've only just read that he's out. The dizzying thing is though that we have quality players to step in for him!
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| Quote: Chorlton RL ""You're good, but to play for England you have to be the best."'"
Bang on mate.
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| Quote: Chorlton RL ""You're good, but to play for England you have to be the best."'"
Widdop is better than Chase though.
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| Rangi Chase is as English as bramley apple pies. As he puts on his top hat after a long day of rugby training, saluting the picture of the Queen on the way out, he gets into his classic Rolls Royce and, on the way home, runs over a few irishmen digging a ditch on the side of the road. He pets his british bulldog named winston and enjoys a roast beef dinner every single night of the week followed by some classic Jeeves and Wooster.
And you can't get more English than that.
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| Quote: barnsley bill "Going by Nick Fozzards tweets, I don't think he is entirely happy about Chase playing for England, apparently when Faasavalu played for England, Fozzard pulled out.'"
If I was a professional sportsman and had been called into a World Cup squad, I'd be an idiot to give up that opportunity.
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