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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "When did Widnes last beat a Super League club?'"
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| When was the last time Widnes had 60+ put on them?
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| Quote: Willzay "When was the last time Widnes had 60+ put on them?'"
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| Quick question, should Toronto get into Super League next season. a) Would you consider going over there to see your team play them?
b) How many supporters from your team do you think would make the trip?
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| I reckon Widnes will win at Toronto !
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "I reckon Widnes will win at Toronto !'"
Hurrah, another believer (see my post earlier).
Of course, my ulteria motive is because if we beat Toulouse and Widnes beat Toronto then we can't be caught and will avoid the MPG.
However, I still think Toronto are the new Leigh from 2015, all talk but fail promotion. Yes Widnes are rubbish (3 wins in the regular season) and deserve to get relegated because if it, but they ARE (barely) a SL team playing a championship team. Widnes have finally got another win this year. Toronto have been very lucky with their win at the weekend and haven't beaten an SL team yet. Will Toronto choke? Whilst far from certain, there is a distinct possibility that they will.
Also, which team is more desperate to avoid the financial strain of championship funding? Toronto have a wealthy backer, Widnes might not. In that case, Widnes are playing for their livelihoods.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "When did Widnes last beat a Super League club?'"
When did Toronto last beat a Super League club?
This is widnes's cup final......if they play structured RL, complete sets and simply do the basics, then they're in with a shout of the MPG, no matter how remote......I hope they spank Toronto, who then need to get a result v Leeds to even get an away shot at the MPG
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| Quote: Call Me God "When did Toronto last beat a Super League club? MPG
Widnes have had a lot more go’s at beating a Super League club than Toronto, who were very unlucky to lose to both Hull kr and Salford.
Quote: Call Me God "
This is widnes's cup final......if they play structured RL, complete sets and simply do the basics, then they're in with a shout of the MPG, no matter how remote......I hope they spank Toronto, who then need to get a result v Leeds to even get an away shot at the MPG
All of Toronto, Toulouse, London and Widnes could still make the MPG. Even Hull kr could end up in the MPG. What a fantastic competition the middle 8’s is. Personally i think it will be Toronto v Toulouse
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Widnes have had a lot more go’s at beating a Super League club than Toronto, who were very unlucky to lose to both Hull kr and Salford. '"
...and more if not equally lucky to beat three championship sides by a average of just 9 points per game.
Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "All of Toronto, Toulouse, London and Widnes could still make the MPG. Even Hull kr could end up in the MPG. What a fantastic competition the middle 8’s is. '" Coulda, woulda, shoulda.......it's not a fantastic system at all, with sides Like HKR and Salford throwing money at short term recruitment, widnes gave up in july and so far there have been no upset results with everything going to form.....just because professional full time squads, of which there are 7 in this comp have played out some close matches, it doesn't change the fact that there isn't enough talent in the UK to sustain anything other than a 10 side SL
Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Personally i think it will be Toronto v Toulouse'"
Based on what? Toulouse beating either Salford and/or HKR or London not beating Salford or Halifax? The form book points to London at Toronto....and the form book is what has been adhered to for the first 5 rounds....so it'll be bye bye Widnes this weekend and away wins for the other SL sides.
No video referee announced for the Toronto game again........bet you there'll be one the following week at Headingley....and surely at the MPG the weekend after if it's as expected in Canada.
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| Quote: Call Me God "Based on what? Toulouse beating either Salford and/or HKR or London not beating Salford or Halifax? The form book points to London at Toronto....and the form book is what has been adhered to for the first 5 rounds....so it'll be bye bye Widnes this weekend and away wins for the other SL sides.'"
To be fair to the form book you only have one example of Toulouse vs SL in France and they beat Widnes well. Granted HKR are better than Widnes and will still be favourites but they didn’t find it easy travelling to Canada.
Then it probably comes down to points difference if Toulouse come up with a win with London beating Halifax final week. Pretty close points difference so could come down to how many they both lose to Salford by and Salford probably going through the motions in Round 7 vs Toulouse.
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| Quote: ThePrinter " Salford probably going through the motions in Round 7 vs Toulouse.'"
...whilst Halifax will be a sharp as tacks?
Chances are Halifax will get tonked by Leeds and already have clocked off for the season by the time they head south...well, same chances as Salford players trying to keep their jobs for 2019 and with Hastings back at the helm.
I say Toulouse not to win again and London to visit Toronto....
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| I think Widnes might save themselves.
Widnes have finally won one to remind themselves they can play.
Toronto have flattered to deceive in these play-offs and look to me to be getting worse, not better, with each game. I see Widnes beating them in Canada, and Leeds beating them soundly at Headingly. They then finish on 6 points but the two defeats will take their PD into negative territory.
Toulouse will lose to Salford at Salford, and given that Hull KR still need points to be safe, I think they'll go all out in France and beat Touolouse there. Toulouse finish on 4 points.
London will lose to Salford, but beat Halifax, finishing on 6 points. Depending on the scores of those games, they may finish above Toronto.
Widnes - this is my left-field prediction - will win both their remaining fixtures. I think they're too good for a declining Toronto, as above. But I also think they'll come up against a Hull KR side in their last game who are safe on 10 points after beating Toulouse in France. If that's the case, I would rpedict they'll be playing a Hull KR side even their own fans will struggle to recognise, and will claim an easy win. That would see Widnes finish on 6 points with a real chance to improve their points difference.
So we end up with 3 teams on 6 points, and the MPG teams decided on points difference. I think Widnes will be in it, and will have too much for either London or Toronto - whichever of those two teams has the highest PD.
Of course, when Toulouse and Toronto both win this weekend, I reserve the right to come back and delete this post.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "[sizeI think Widnes might save themselves.
Widnes have finally won one to remind themselves they can play.
Toronto have flattered to deceive in these play-offs and look to me to be getting worse, not better, with each game. I see Widnes beating them in Canada, and Leeds beating them soundly at Headingly. They then finish on 6 points but the two defeats will take their PD into negative territory.
Toulouse will lose to Salford at Salford, and given that Hull KR still need points to be safe, I think they'll go all out in France and beat Touolouse there. Toulouse finish on 4 points.
London will lose to Salford, but beat Halifax, finishing on 6 points. Depending on the scores of those games, they may finish above Toronto.
Widnes - this is my left-field prediction - will win both their remaining fixtures. I think they're too good for a declining Toronto, as above. But I also think they'll come up against a Hull KR side in their last game who are safe on 10 points after beating Toulouse in France. If that's the case, I would rpedict they'll be playing a Hull KR side even their own fans will struggle to recognise, and will claim an easy win. That would see Widnes finish on 6 points with a real chance to improve their points difference.
So we end up with 3 teams on 6 points, and the MPG teams decided on points difference. I think Widnes will be in it, and will have too much for either London or Toronto - whichever of those two teams has the highest PD.[/size
Of course, when Toulouse and Toronto both win this weekend, I reserve the right to come back and delete this post.'"
Too late...saved for the record books.....and I have to say, that would be an ideal situation, Widnes visiting London whilst Toronto have a whine
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| London are not ready for SL lets be fair. We just don't need the turbulence at this stage of the clubs 'revival'. The last couple of years in SL & then Barnet...were painful. Lets just keep building, focus on youth coming through, find a benefactor to join DH......... then lets see
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| Quote: wire-quin "London are not ready for SL lets be fair. We just don't need the turbulence at this stage of the clubs 'revival'. The last couple of years in SL & then Barnet...were painful. Lets just keep building, focus on youth coming through, find a benefactor to join DH......... then lets see'"
But we need London, along with Toulouse and Toronto, to be confirmed in Super League by 2022, so we can get a more lucrative contract from Sky to start in 2022, and possibly a good contract from BeIN Sports and perhaps from Canadian television as well.
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