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| Quote: Fully "Main stadium sponsorship, four stand sponsorships, leasing facilities costs, fan contributions etc etc.'"
How much do you think these sponsorships will raise? I would estimate at no more than 200 000.
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| Quote: number 6 "1000 extra for the east stand am i correct?
rest of the ground is still poop
as for the north stand, kr aimed to build that before 2010, so dont hold your breath on 2012'" CP has gone from being around 8k to just short 12k by the start of next season.
We also pull in an average of over 8k.
Oh and BTW the North will be done before 2012
Some other clubs could only dream of all this
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| Quote: Roverswall "CP has gone from being around 8k to just short 12k by the start of next season.
We also pull in an average of over 8k.
Oh and BTW the North will be done before 2012]
You hope it will be , dont start going all ' Salford ' on us Roverswall
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| Quote: deeHell "How much do you think these sponsorships will raise? I would estimate at no more than 200 000.'"
200k? Pathetic.
Try, I don't know 10 times that figure maybe?
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| Quote: Roverswall "CP has gone from being around 8k to just short 12k by the start of next season.
We also pull in an average of over 8k.
Oh and BTW the North will be done before 2012
dont know why you are bothering.
Hull Kr are an example of what a smaller club which has been promoted from the champ. needs to do to stay in SL.
hull kr are a valuable addition to SL.
they are still improving as well, not promising the world and delivering nothing like the relegation favourites
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| Quote: Fully "200k?
No where near, that kind of money you would be talking about one of the biggest sponsorship contracts in sporting history! Deluded!!!!
If you could get that much for stadium naming rights I'm sure many soccer teams would have made such a move. Just how much do you think a higher profile club like saints got for naming rights to KR? I know Wakey valued the naming rights to Belle Vue at 50K, which you would have to consider a similar club in profile and media exposure.
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| A new stadium will inevitably be worth a lot more in naming rights than either BV or WR.
But if you look at the B2Net stadium in Chesterfield (which GH is modelled upon) the total breakdown of naming rights is well below £1,000,000 even with B2Net sponsoring the stadium as a whole, as well as individual sponsors for the four stands (The 'HTM' main stand, The 'Karen Child' South Stand, The 'Midlands Co-op Community' East stand & The 'Printablity' North stand The North stand).
Let's for forget to the vast majority of the public football is a far bigger deal than RL, hence greater exposure for their business, which leads to.... Yes you guessed it; bigger sponsorships.
I would be astonished if any of the new builds in SL (NM, GH, Salford or Saints) managed to get anywhere near £500,000 in sponsorship from naming rights.
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| Quote: deeHell "No where near, that kind of money you would be talking about one of the biggest sponsorship contracts in sporting history! Deluded!!!!
If you could get that much for stadium naming rights I'm sure many soccer teams would have made such a move. Just how much do you think a higher profile club like saints got for naming rights to KR? I know Wakey valued the naming rights to Belle Vue at 50K, which you would have to consider a similar club in profile and media exposure.'"
Four stands plus the whole stadium naming rights? By your definition that's probably about £25k for each stand and £100k for the stadium naming rights.
Now considering we've just got one of the highest shirt sponsorships in Super League worth six figures, don't you think that the stadium, which is going to be mentioned in every article about matches there, on the radio, in magazines, etc etc, is going to be a more lucrative and valuable publicity machine for any company than a shirt, which you see on Sky, what 6/7 times a season? Come off it. The naming rights alone are going to significantly higher than what you said, especially if it's over a long term period.
If you were saying over one year, I'd probably agree, but it's likely to be over a five-year period or ten year period, no?
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "A new stadium will inevitably be worth a lot more in naming rights than either BV or WR.
But if you look at the B2Net stadium in Chesterfield (which GH is modelled upon) the total breakdown of naming rights is well below £1,000,000 even with B2Net sponsoring the stadium as a whole, as well as individual sponsors for the four stands (The 'HTM' main stand, The 'Karen Child' South Stand, The 'Midlands Co-op Community' East stand & The 'Printablity' North stand The North stand).
Let's for forget to the vast majority of the public football is a far bigger deal than RL, hence greater exposure for their business, which leads to.... Yes you guessed it; bigger sponsorships.
I would be astonished if any of the new builds in SL (NM, GH, Salford or Saints) managed to get anywhere near £500,000 in sponsorship from naming rights.'"
And where did you find a breakdown of Chesterfield's sponsorship incomes? A quick look on their website reveals nothing.
Prepare to be astonished, I'd say.
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| Quote: deeHell "No where near, that kind of money you would be talking about one of the biggest sponsorship contracts in sporting history! Deluded!!!!
If you could get that much for stadium naming rights I'm sure many soccer teams would have made such a move. Just how much do you think a higher profile club like saints got for naming rights to KR? I know Wakey valued the naming rights to Belle Vue at 50K, which you would have to consider a similar club in profile and media exposure.'"
Your figure of £200K is far closer to the mark than Fully's '£2m'
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| Quote: Ceejames "Your figure of £200K is far closer to the mark than Fully's '£2m''"
If you say so.
£2m over a five year period works out at £400k a season. That's approx £200k for entire stadium sponsorship per season and £50k per season for each of the four stands. I think that's a fairly accurate and reasonable figure? Considering shirt sponsorship invariably range between those figures, a stadium is going to provide much more publicity.
You only see brands on shirts either a) at games; or b) on TV or c) on photos in articles, whereas the new stadium will be SAID on every TV game, "welcome to the XYZ Stadium" on both Sky and BBC coverage. It will be mentioned on the radio "lets go back to the XYZ stadium" every Sunday. It will be in every press article for an home game, international game and cup games per season NATIONALLY, not forgetting trade papers such as League Express, League Weekly and magazines like RLW. Then you have Internet publicity and for every news article generated it's on the net. Oh, and not forgetting that the stadium will be sign posted on one of the busiest motorways in Britain and seen from the M62. Oh, and not forgetting the stadium is in a prime location close to Xscape and Junction32.
The power of sponsoring the ground is significantly higher than the shirt sponsorship IMO. And considering that figure is into six figures itself, the stadium sponsors will be significantly higher per year and I would be glad neither of you are involved in sport trying to gain sponsorships because I'd be disappointed if we only obtained £200k for the stadium.
Oh and SWC, another search of the net for info on Chesterfield's stadium yielded a little better results. I found a fans forum where they said that Chesterfield's naming rights for the entire stadium was approximately £1m and they seemed to think it was based on conditions of promotion. Considering we're in the highest division and I would say that figure is not a bad marker for any RL team for it's naming rights.
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| The GAME is still being seen as secondary to bog seats and colours.
Truely bizzarre.
Mind you we absolutely mullered PNG whilst Australia D broke into a tot to beat the Kiwis.
We must have our sense of priorities right.
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| Quote: Fully "
Oh and SWC, another search of the net for info on Chesterfield's stadium yielded a little better results. I found a fans forum where they said that Chesterfield's naming rights for the entire stadium was approximately £1m and they seemed to think it was based on conditions of promotion. Considering we're in the highest division and I would say that figure is not a bad marker for any RL team for it's naming rights.'"
Fully old chap your getting as little wound up here, I support your project, I feel 99% confident it will happen but you have to see there are massive funding problems.
TBH I'd even support (if push came to shove) Cas using NM and paying minimal/zero rent to raise the funds to move to GH. As a club within the city of Wakefield district you have as much right to NM as we do & it if was needed I think that could be a lucrative way of raising the missing funding (if NM gets the nod).
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