That also equates to a minimum of 50% of Super League too.

We can't have a logical and factual debate leading to an agreed conclusion unless you grasp some realities.

Superleague is a league based on selling subscriptions to English fans to watch their clubs.

It's a league in which the player base is based on member clubs producing as much talent as it can from this country.

What we want from our clubs is player development, fanbases buying SKY subscriptions and private non-returnable investment where we can get it accordingly. Put simply.....

1. Rich owners
2. Fans buying TV subscriptions to see their clubs playing Superleague on TV
3. Player production systems

This isn't even up for debate, it's just a fact.

Leigh do not fully tick these boxes and Toulouse don't tick any of the boxes, and you never seem to be able to grasp this?? Is it because, as you admit, you have a penchant for ignoring what people are saying?

The idea is they get their English fans buying SKY subscriptions.

There is a difference in terms of the North American clubs, they are required to actually deliver TV deals from their own country. You've see the quotes from Mr. Perez who openly accepted from the start he needed to find NA TV deals,

Seen any yet?

I wonder why Livolsi thinks he should have a slice of the TV deal when the reality always was NA clubs had to find their own TV deals as their fans can't subscribe to SKY like Newcastle and York fans can.

Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"The idea is they get their English fans buying SKY subscriptions. There is a difference in terms of the North American clubs, they are required to actually deliver TV deals from their own country. You've see the quotes from Mr. Perez who openly accepted from the start he needed to find NA TV deals, Seen any yet? I wonder why Livolsi thinks he should have a slice of the TV deal when the reality always was NA clubs had to find their own TV deals as their fans can't subscribe to SKY like Newcastle and York fans can.'" Whose idea was this? Sky appear to like Toronto - https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-3803425

Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"The idea is they get their English fans buying SKY subscriptions. There is a difference in terms of the North American clubs, they are required to actually deliver TV deals from their own country. You've see the quotes from Mr. Perez who openly accepted from the start he needed to find NA TV deals, Seen any yet? I wonder why Livolsi thinks he should have a slice of the TV deal when the reality always was NA clubs had to find their own TV deals as their fans can't subscribe to SKY like Newcastle and York fans can.'" Whose idea was this? Sky appear to like Toronto - https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-3803425

Yes, I know this but, the lack of securing a TV deal was top of a certain posters demands for jettisoning Toronto (pre their voluntary withdrawal)..
Ultimately, any club taking Toronto's place will, quite rightly, want a slice of the TV monies, something that Toronto didn't take.

Anyway, it matters not.

York are not ready for SL yet but, come the time, if they gain promotion, I'm sure that they will be welcomed in, just as other promoted sides should be.

Toulouse satisfy point 3 of your made up list of criteria.

Point 2 doesn't even apply to them, don't know about point 1.

This is yet another fantasy post.

Last time I looked, Super League was the elite level professional RL competition in thee UK (and beyond)..

It is not a "league based on selling subscriptions to English fans to watch their clubs." - where on earth did you pull this one from







Yes, in order for it to be worth Sky's level of investment, they either need to generate money from subscriptions but, they are more reliant on selling advertising alongside their output.

Do you really think that sky are bothered whether those tuning in are from Wigan, Warrington or Western Super Mare ??

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are here as click bait.
Not a fan of ANY club but just on the full time wind up.

Being a WUM is ok but, please TRY and stick to the truth.

York were joint bottom of the league without a single win before the season got cancelled.
I wouldnt be getting that excited about them to be honest.

Bramleymans excitement stems from the owner being a millionaire, not how good they are.

I absolutely agree and the agreed structure functions with promotion and relegation and not directly on the individual wealth of a clubs owner.
As I said, he's either on the wind up or here as click bait.

Toronto Wolfpack didn't even exist back in 2016 and Canada had no domestic game and no RL TV deals.

Yet plenty of people got very excited indeed about them didn't they?

But after a few short years Toronto Wolfpack ended up bottom of Superleague without a single win, $30Million down the drain, no North American TV deals and no player production.

Yet some people are going to be getting very excited indeed to see them back to be honest

Funnily enough that's exactly the only attribute Toronto Wolfpack had, they were certainly no good when they played Superleague were they?