not 100% sure about the Grammar there Stephanie. Best check with your daughters eh

Remember that this thread is about wishes, not probabilities.

My wish list would undoubtedly be a huge boost for the game within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and especially internationally.

Is it really, I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, isn't that a St Helens thing brawling in the streets over whippets and the like.

I’m just going off what people wrote on here about you trying to start fights at Wakefield games. Ergo, it’s your style

My 3: (unlikely as no. 1 may seem)

1) England beat Australia at least once
2) Leigh Centurions continue to be a major force in the championship.
3) Championship & League 1 clubs negotiate their own TV deal for the 2021 season, as Sky own the rights, but hardly show any championship games, and none from League 1.

Agree with your number 3 it would be good if channel 4 or bbc picked them up to show games

serious question, where is the value for any broadcaster in showing the lower leagues?

If I'd asked you of the value of showing a few blokes throwing arrows at a dartboard, watched by a load of pi55ed up fans a decade ago, you'd have said NOWT.
RL at what we consider 2nd tier level would/could be a nice little "filler" that could pick up a niche audience, sick of the razzamatazz of pro sports. I'd reckon a "joint" deal, with the clubs swapping a fee in year one in exchange for a broadcaster to produce and show games would be a fair way to test the waters.....




.....although Toronto paid to produce their own last year, gave them to sky and then sky wasn't happy to pay for them this year, so maybe not.

A Saturday afternoon game on FTA TV would be a start.

Darts isn't comparable to RL, Darts is played in pubs and homes (garages) up and down the UK, there is more TV coverage of fishing and golf than RL, two "sports" that have never interested me but have massive participation and following. RL is not popular other than with those of us brought up with it. IF Hull had had a decent football team when I was growing up I would never have been an FC supporter, but RL was the dominant sport, it was only when I moved to Liverpool I got interested in Football, I never thought I'd willingly wear red, but I have Hull FC and Liverpool FC running in my blood now. RL simply isn't commercial, the BBC would rather show athletics, and given audience figures, they are right to do so.

I wish RL had a broader audience, but fact is, it doesn't.

Cant really argue with that to be honest.

An even more serious question, where is the value for any broadcaster in showing SL?

I would not be surprised if this has recently been mentioned in Sky towers.

You know the answer, SL has no commercial value, hence gifting the sponsorship to Stobart previously. Look at the sponsors for Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, not one has a household name sponsor. RL has been in the shadows for a century, we enter a new decade where the light seems even further away. Our great new hope in TWP can't even play a home game for the first months of the season and all of their CC games will be away.I can guarantee you, mention TWP in a bar in Toronto and they will think you are talking little league Ice Hockey.

FC to win the lot and gonads to the rest of yeh.

I’m quite disappointed that most people’s No 1 isn’t to beat the Aussies in the ashes.

Nobody has mentioned it on here, an oddball Wakey fan with multiple accounts (a bit like you really why else would you be on our board anyway if you weren't a fan) posted on the Wakey board that I had got involved in a brawl at the Widnes game not games as you are suggesting, he doesn't know me from Adam but is convinced it was me even though I wasn't at the match, once again stephie just like you a bit of a mischief maker.
I'm interested to know if you are going to be my personal stalker, or are you just interested in any gossip you can scrape up, desperate or what

Mate, what mods? I think it’s now obvious that the mods on the VT are not just ignoring the issue they are probably in on the deal.

The VT is dead, take away the many versions of Jean then there are hardly any contributors left. Wakefield fans are fighting a rearguard but frankly why bother.

I’ll probably get moderated now

Your case should get due consideration over a few glasses of port.

Please don't berate the moderators.

1. A more competitive Wales international team.
2. A more competitive West Wales Raiders team.
3. More Welsh players to break through to a higher level, a la Regan Grace.

I started the thread on the australian fires and Jean immediately trolled it. IR80 berated him for it and then the thread was edited by a moderator, leaving the inane part of Jeans post, but for some reason not telling the troll to behave. I am not sure of the nature of this evidence that the skidmark has on this owners of this site, but it must be pretty terrible for them to basically defend his trolling. The new rules post from july 2019 clearly states that posts to wind upbOther fans are verbotten..... But its all Jean does.

Indeed, but JeanSteph is beyond reproach, even when you report a thread you hear nothing.

The site sponsors will soon notice the fall in posters, perhaps TotalRL have bought the site?

Total RL is an RL site for "expansionists" who can't have a discussion in which they actually discuss the facts that North America offer little positive to the game here. Instead the moderator only supports these people who probably don't buy their mags, but do offer insults to anyone who want's to discuss reality. This leads me to believe that Rugby League Express are in favour of this "expansion"...

Why I don't know, as surely their traditional readership are the ones who pays the wages? 80% of Hull fans want HKR not TWP, I wonder why Sadler and Drake are seemingly in favour of promoting the Transatlantic Dream, whilst supressing the viewpoints of fans who actually pay their wages?? Maybe you have a view? maybe however you prefer to engage incessantly with your paranoia as regards "trolls" and see a new troll in every other new poster who mistakenly comes on here looking for a discussion they can't get on TRL......?

As Gubrats on TRL you apparently were no better according to Jean and Steph or maybe they are actually Donald & Melania Trump?? I don't know or care as much as you seem to do??

All I know is you are far more interested in incessantly trolling trolls, and as for any engagement I have had with you over a proper discussion it has in the end been returned with an agreement with an accusation from IR80 that I am a troll as well.

If you two - or are you two actually one? ......of the opinion that there's no more debate on these sites then my experience is guys, look no further than yourselves?

Point of order. Grubrats, or Starbug as he was before is not i.
Secondly. This isnt about trolling trolls, but about trying o understand why a budget shop league freak is being permitted to ruin what was a great platform for discussion. Hes neither french, not living in France, but an aussie who has figured out that winding up fans of smaller clubs by suggesting they be replaced by immaginary foreign ones is a source of some wierd pleasure.
I post as one person at any given time here..... I certainly do not have a secondary id other than AXE2GRIND and ive given up on the toiletrl. Com forum as you're nit permitted to question anything.
I have my own theory, which will remain my own, as to the multiple IDs used by either one or a select cult of users across other forums.... Take Kayakman who spouts slightly less pro toronto guff than Noble, or Manfred Mann..... A second faux french poster...... These are neither genuine fans nor british, but Australians put for a giggle.....
... As for your identity. I care not. You post in a style similar to Parksider on TRL and your sudden burst if activity offering a differing viewpoint is both welcome and suspicious.... Your overt politeness could be seen as a crutch to help one with multiple log ins to. Remind themselves as to Who They are supposed to be.... Or you could just be overtly polite.

All in. This. Is the best thread to discuss this as it is one sarted by the troll because he couldnt get a bite in the merry xmas one.