The early 80's were pretty woefull

We played much better than this under MacNamara

As much as I didnt rate McNamara, Bennett has been far worse, 6 half back and two wingers, errrm, WHAT!?

Can we beat PNG next week ? Don't know what their recent results have been like, but they must fancy their chances.

Woeful yet bizarrly enough we actually had enough chances to win it. Why does he persevere with widdop when he clearly isnt performing and we have William's sat in the stand. The squad selection was ridiculous and the tactics and skills on show In the games have been terrible. Props stood at first receiver in their 10 metre zone late in the tackle count? We need a coach who watches sl week in, week out

Yep. We can talk injuries but Ratchford, Charnley and S.Tomkins are all available and sat at home whilst aussies are representing the country (badly!)

Bennett lifted England when he first arrived but has taken us as far as he can now. Agree with others that it is clear he doesnt watch SL.

England could do with a morale boosting mid season game against a smaller nation, it will be tough to sell tickets for the Ashes tour based on what weve seen the last 2 weeks.

If you want to visualise the shocking decline of British RL go to Twitter, search ‘Andrew Ferguson’ ‘@AndrewRLP’ and see the charts he’s just put up of cumulative points v Aus and NZ. They rather support my point.

That's an indictment on coaching in this country. We just don't produce players with a high enough skill level.

To some degree I agree - from what I’ve seen skill and creativity are actively coached out. The fundamental problem though is a lack of kids playing the game. Until or unless we increase the number 10 fold we’ll keep losing.

I don't think skills are necessarily the problem. I just think our backs, in particular don't develop enough physically between 18 and 25. You can probably count on one hand the number of backs we've had in the last 20 years who could match the opposition's physicality. It looks men against boys at times.

Of the Ashes series I have seen both in England and Aus. I would select the 1984 team as the worst. Captained by Noble with Hanley on the wing and Schofield at centre. Lost 3-0. 1979 team out here ran it close also losing 3-0.