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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"First of all you don't need to have played to a high standard to be knowledgeable and insightful about the game. I never played any higher than the Hull and District league but I am certain that I am more knowledgeable about the modern game than plenty of ex professionals.
Secondly, it's about the image we want to portray to viewers and sponsors. We need to appear more inclusive and forward thinking to appeal to a broader spectrum. It might seem like tokenism, but it is important to portray that image.'"
Best response so far, thank you.
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| Quote post="post"Don’t comment then, ignore the thread. If you’re going to counter argue then do so without using insults as others have.
My main point is women’s SL in nowhere near the standard of where their players should be brought on to Sky to comment on SL games as an expert or current player, like they do with Superleague players. If it was a female presenter or a female journalist there wouldn’t be an issue, it’s the fact of the above that I didn’t agree with.
[uSo anyone who thinks I love Trump, Voted Brexit, read the Daily Mail, live in the 1950s, an a Tory and 103 is wrong. I’m none of the above.'" [/u
Just a sexist D**k then?
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| Quote Cokey="Cokey"[/u
Just a sexist D**k then?'"
No need for insults, that’s why there’s no debate in this country, because of people like yourself shouting down and insulting others.
Now if someone can convince me that I’m wrong I’d be the first to admit I was wrong, the original reply was a great response. Then followed a few poor insults that never gave any cause for me to change my ‘mysogynisic ways’.
Is it not sexist to give a person a job based on their sex? Answer me that.
On another note she did well, a lot better than some SL men may do.
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| Well there you are then, make a judgement on her contribution rather than jumping straight in with the gender issue.
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| Meh. If it encourages the women’s game and makes us seem more open to women then what’s the harm?
Also, the women’s football standard is poor too so they don’t use or pretend it’s at the same level. It’s not about that.
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| Tbf the Leeds lady player tonight was ok as a pundit..I sort of agree with Post in soccer particularly the lady ex players pundits are wooden and only in the gig because they are female. The short haired ex England striker Smith? Is awful in her role imo. No problem with equality but it doesn't seem to go both ways in modern life? So I sort of get the OPs point but was probably worded a bit clumsily? Failing that I'm not getting involved in a ding dong over it
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"First of all you don't need to have played to a high standard to be knowledgeable and insightful about the game. I never played any higher than the Hull and District league but I am certain that I am more knowledgeable about the modern game than plenty of ex professionals.
Secondly, it's about the image we want to portray to viewers and sponsors. We need to appear more inclusive and forward thinking to appeal to a broader spectrum. It might seem like tokenism, but it is important to portray that image.'"
This is so true, to my knowledge Dave Woods has not played any serious rugby but has an obvious love and knowledge of the game and can commentate well!
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| Quote post="post"I’d say we were ahead of our time with having Angela Powers who earned her place and does a great job, why not have her in the studio rather than pitch side?'"
Are you serious about being 'ahead of our time'? In Australia the first female side line commentator started in 1984! In the NRL currently we have female assistant referees and in the reserve league we have female referees. On NRL programmes we have panels of women discussing NRL and females heading panels of male pundits.
Also one of the biggest areas of growth in Sport in Aus is in the female games of RL, Rugby, AFL and Football.
Finally the lady player from Leeds on the Sky panel tonight did very well. More of it for me.
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| Quote Freddie Miller.="Freddie Miller."Are you serious about being 'ahead of our time'? In Australia the first female side line commentator started in 1984! In the NRL currently we have female assistant referees and in the reserve league we have female referees. On NRL programmes we have panels of women discussing NRL and females heading panels of male pundits.
Also one of the biggest areas of growth in Sport in Aus is in the female games of RL, Rugby, AFL and Football.
Finally the lady player from Leeds on the Sky panel tonight did very well. More of it for me.'"
Well wrote. The lady who presents the Aus matches is excellent imo? Bearing in mind we have Barry and Tez and sometimes JJB the men's pundits aren't exactly blessed with TV talent..
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| Quote craig hkr="craig hkr"Tbf the Leeds lady player tonight was ok as a pundit..I sort of agree with Post in soccer particularly the lady ex players pundits are wooden and only in the gig because they are female. The short haired ex England striker Smith? Is awful in her role imo. No problem with equality but it doesn't seem to go both ways in modern life? So I sort of get the OPs point but was probably worded a bit clumsily? Failing that I'm not getting involved in a ding dong over it'"
Yeah it probably was worded clumsily but I’ve got an excuse, I played prop all my life. Thanks for being brave enough to speak your mind.
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| Quote post="post"Yeah it probably was worded clumsily but I’ve got an excuse, I played prop all my life. Thanks for being brave enough to speak your mind.'"
The problem is Post, that you judge her on the standard of the league she plays in rather than how good she is.
The shoehorning in thing is real I agree across all sports but not for women.
When the Olympics or WC is on we see lots of new people, many brought in for who they are rather than their knowledge and presenting skills.
Some go on to make something of it. Some don't.
It's not a gender thing.
Personally I thought the new presenter was a good addition. When asked about who she thought would win she gave a great response why she chose who she chose and when talking about the game she clearly had knowledge and clearly made judgement calls on the actual game rather than churning out standard lines.
In my opinion she is already above some of the summarises on sky/BBC so I hope she does more.
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