Yep got to agree, tough to see them winning both (or even one) of those as they’re both away and Widnes are 0-12 away from home this year with an average score around 13-31

I am happy to be corrected, but they lost to Fev as well as HKR & London and were pushed hard by Halifax....they were trounced by a top end SL side in the cup.....



Blocks of games is 100% an advantage to them. They based themselves a stones throw from their "away" games, had the cost of flying Toulouse to Toronto removed by being "invited to the Magic Weekend and then hosted part time sides fresh of the plane with a 24hr turnaround whilst they themselves were happily based in Canada full time with no travel or jet lag.....as someone who recently landed after 36hrs travelling, I can assure you even the short hop to Canada takes 72 hours to get over.....



Name a "star" at Toronto....and am I wrong that they will be taking the central funding next season should they go up?



There were never 3,500 or so fans hiding from the cameras.....both stands were over half empty and the beer tents had no queues....7,500 would mean 1,700 empty seats......you really need to get yourself to specsavers.



Let's see shall we......TV deals and sponsors are what we were promised, as well as Hamilton, Boston, NYC and Florida.....

Bump - Doh!

Looks like that could be it for Widnes.

lose one against a championship side, you have a chance of the MPG, lose two it looks certain relegation, only hope now is they got to leeds and get a win, with leeds defensive frailties it may just be last chance saloon

It's certainly an interesting league. Widnes look like they are gone, but not a huge amount of points between the rest.

For all Jean and his multiples frothing that is as good a summary of the flea pack I've seen. Jobbers galore

Toronto should go up but as they're squad is basically bottom half or super league/top championship players who have all probably reached the peak of their career or are on the way down it will be a massive difference to smashing the part time teams of league 1 and championship and reckoning they're a great team.

Will be interesting to see how they get on as i reckon a lot of Widnes' released players will probably end up there next year, swapping like for like.

The Toronto story has been great for the club and transatlantic rugby league up to now but let's be honest they've had a pretty easy ride up to now.

Given how Widnes have gone there are realistically four stronger teams - without the MPG who stayed/went up would probably be pretty clear cut based on league positions, unless one of those four loses a game vs Toulouse, Fax or London (I know, not impossible).

Not sure if any of those three could go to Headingley or Lamport and win the MPG. Paradoxically I sense that Widnes could and even in their present straits it isn't impossible for them to cobble together the points to finish fifth.

With Toulouse's decisive and crushing victory over Widnes, we can reasonably assume that Widnes is now doomed to relegation.

Toulouse is now in the mix for promotion. The French club should at least be in the million pound game, against either Toronto or Salford (depending on results).

Toulouse have a very talented backline. The only question is whether their forwards can prevail against Salford or Hull KR.

I don't think they will. Haven't they already signed a marquee player from Cronulla? They will have a much changed squad for next year and will sign better players than the ones Widnes have. They will probably finish 7th-10th IMO although i still think they need a different coach to Rowley though.

Looks like Toronto and Toulouse are neck and neck, but have eclipsed London, in the race for promotion. Toulouse should beat London next week.

I would like both Toronto and Toulouse to go up to Super League, but that requires Toulouse to beat Hull KR and Salford, and Toronto to beat Salford and Leeds, this month