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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"FWIW I've noticed the dwindling numbers going to the races at Haydock to the point that they converted a standing area into a car park. 10 years ago Haydock would be on every 2/3 weeks and would sell out on all stands, now it's a ghost town. I think I read that Kempton is considering selling its track to make way for a new housing estate. It's heartbreaking to see these sports lose out the mediocrity of wendyball. Wendyball numbers will start to reduce with ticket and travel price rises, however that sport can cover those loses with sponsorship money, that's until social media completely dominates advertising and at that point there will be no sponsorship revenue for anyone. In general people need to stop believing the tory press and wake up to the fact that every one is skint and the country is in a complete mess.'"
Racecourses are despicable so not really that heartbreaking.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Racecourses are despicable so not really that heartbreaking.'"
It’s the one place the peasants wearing their best Top Man suit, matching shades and vomit stain are allowed to join in with the toffs.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"It’s the one place the peasants wearing their best Top Man suit, matching shades and vomit stain are allowed to join in with the toffs.'"
A sport that literally only exists for gambling, now people can gamble much easier online, a sport where the participants (the horses) are shot if they get injured as the owners dont want a vers bill. Faster it goes down hill the better.
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| Rl is screwed the longer we let the tail wag the Dog.
Its probably one of the only good examples of trickle down economy, if the super league grows the lower level clubs will get dragged up a level.
unfortunately the top of the game us being dragged down by the drowning man of championship/league ine clubs.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"It’s the one place the peasants wearing their best Top Man suit, matching shades and vomit stain are allowed to join in with the toffs.'"
Oh that's alright then. Never mind the horses or dogs who may not come out it alive, as long as the poor are made to feel relevant.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"Rl is screwed the longer we let the tail wag the Dog.
Its probably one of the only good examples of trickle down economy, if the super league grows the lower level clubs will get dragged up a level.
unfortunately the top of the game us being dragged down by the drowning man of championship/league ine clubs.'"
Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Oh that's alright then. Never mind the horses or dogs who may not come out it alive, as long as the poor are made to feel relevant.'"
Errm i wont say 'whoosh' but im not sure how the tone of my message was lost to infer being in anything other than agreement with you.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.'"
Or they adapt.
At the moment we have too many clubs with too many different ambitions. Someone like Michael Carter will never have the level of vision or ambition of someone like Ian Lenaghan, but yet the sport is structured in a way where it progresses at the pace of the slowest man.
Carter himself is on record as saying that he wants to RL to be "the number one sport, after football, in the North of England". Well sorry Michael, but not all of us are suspicious or fearful of anything beyond Derbyshire. Some of us realise that there's a big wide world out there, and we want to be more exciting than that.
As a sport we can do one of two things. We can be bold, ambitious in raising standards, growing and striving to be better, or we can do what Michael Carter wants which is insular, unambitious, unadventurous and will be what ultimately kills the game. For too long, the sport in this country has worried about people who think the latter and it hasn't worked. It's time to do the former and encourage everyone else to keep up.
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| As someone else touched on, the country is skint.The reason for Saint's and Leeds success is their net is cast out the whole of Yorkshire/Lancs. Go back 30 years, that net would have only needed to be cast within a 3 mile radius.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Or they adapt.
At the moment we have too many clubs with too many different ambitions. Someone like Michael Carter will never have the level of vision or ambition of someone like Ian Lenaghan, but yet the sport is structured in a way where it progresses at the pace of the slowest man.
Carter himself is on record as saying that he wants to RL to be "the number one sport, after football, in the North of England". Well sorry Michael, but not all of us are suspicious or fearful of anything beyond Derbyshire. Some of us realise that there's a big wide world out there, and we want to be more exciting than that.
As a sport we can do one of two things. We can be bold, ambitious in raising standards, growing and striving to be better, or we can do what Michael Carter wants which is insular, unambitious, unadventurous and will be what ultimately kills the game. For too long, the sport in this country has worried about people who think the latter and it hasn't worked. It's time to do the former and encourage everyone else to keep up.'"
He's having a crack at the fact we're not top dog in our own back yard, nevermind somebody else's.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"He's having a crack at the fact we're not top dog in our own back yard, nevermind somebody else's.'"
But with an attitude like the one that Carter holds, this sport isn't going to be 'top dog' anywhere, because what he is proposing is something that limits our audience to demographics that advertisers, sponsors and broadcasters care little for.
Carter is an accountant - a bean-counter by trade. His MO is reduce spends and to control costs, not to seek opportunities. Now people like him are needed in business and in sport, but so are the innovators, the visionaries and the risk takers. My belief is that we've spent far too long listening more to the former than we have the latter.
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| Quote atomic="atomic"Always remember if Championship/League 1 Clubs die,you die with them.'"
Ridiculous response an entire round of championship games in one venue around 30 miles away from most of the clubs competing attracted less over two days than castleford hull kr Alone attract to one league game never mind Leeds Wigan, but the whole game will die if these clubs aren't allowed to hang of the shirt tails of the big clubs. That's either the best bit is sarcasm I have ever heard or complete utter desperationalist bollox. This attitude is what's killing the game. 500-600 fans of smalltime clubs telling clubs with 16000 fans that the game will die without them. I really hope it's sarcasm.
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