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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"Just back this up, my favourite and least favourite Chase memories come from the same game.
Challenge cup semi final v Leeds in 2011. He scored a majestic individual try to nudge us ahead, as good a try as he has ever scored. Scores locked at 8-8. 10 seconds remain , Cas 15m out, ball checked back to Rangi for a DG attempt to get Cas to Wembley, he skewers it horribly wide. '"
Don't. I can still remember that feeling when the ball went back to him. I'd have put my house on it being all over. I couldn't believe he missed.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"Should players even be tested for recreational drugs? I'd estimate that at least 6 out of 10 Super League players will have snorted coke on a night out during their career. Stupid to get banned for it if you ask me, as long as it isn't performance enhancing then they should be allowed to do what they want.'"
My understanding is that it is performance enhancing if taken and still in the system at the point of competition, so is a banned in-competition substance.
It's not considered performance enhancing in out-of-competition testing.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"Should players even be tested for recreational drugs? I'd estimate that at least 6 out of 10 Super League players will have snorted coke on a night out during their career. Stupid to get banned for it if you ask me, as long as it isn't performance enhancing then they should be allowed to do what they want.'"
what a stupid comment, were do you get your estimate from, just a blind stab in the dark. as for this particularly nasty drug, its not only banned as a performance enhancing drug its class A illegal. its banned by IOC WADA and rightly so. all players in tested sport should be banned if caught. most people have random tests at any work and would be sacked on the spot so yes its a problem.
having experienced the effects off this drug and seen how others behave on this as well, its a shocking aggressive drug especially as its often combined with alcohol. no wonder he keeps getting into fights. lucky he is not in jail for his drug fueled violence.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"My understanding is that it is performance enhancing if taken and still in the system at the point of competition, so is a banned in-competition substance.
It's not considered performance enhancing in out-of-competition testing.'"
rl players train all year round so the effects are still enhancing, its class A illegal full stop.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Did Newton ever go to a rival team's match that didn't concern his own and start a fight with a rival fan? Because that pretty much smacks of bellendery. Sure Chase may need help, for being addicted to being an idiot.'"
Not quite as simple as that though.
For many people, the most obvious symptom of their mental health condition is making decisions that to them seem reasonable and rational, but are actually unreasonable and irrational.
It's possible that Rangi went to Featherstone with no intention to cause trouble. In his mind, he may have thought there was no problem with doing so.
Mental health issues often also lead to impulsive decision-making and no consideration of deferred consequences. As in making an impulsive decision to take cocaine without considering the potential consequence of doing so (i.e. The possibility of drugs testing the following day).
There are also similar examples of impulsive decision making in his personal life that have ruined his marriage (twice) and many of his friendships.
To me, his irrational and impulsive behaviour and decision-making suggests serious mental health difficulties and he needs to be supported as much as possible.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"rl players train all year round so the effects are still enhancing, its class A illegal full stop.'"
I'm not an expert on this, but I think 'in-competition' for RL is 24 hours before a game (and during the game, obviously). Training etc is considered as 'out of competition'.
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| Quote rollin thunder="rollin thunder"what a stupid comment, were do you get your estimate from, just a blind stab in the dark. as for this particularly nasty drug, its not only banned as a performance enhancing drug its class A illegal. its banned by IOC WADA and rightly so. all players in tested sport should be banned if caught. most people have random tests at any work and would be sacked on the spot so yes its a problem.
having experienced the effects off this drug and seen how others behave on this as well, its a shocking aggressive drug especially as its often combined with alcohol. no wonder he keeps getting into fights. lucky he is not in jail for his drug fueled violence.'"
No it wasn't a stab in the dark, I used all the Super League players I know and the 6 out of 10 came from the one's from that sample who I know to have taken it.
Call it what you want, nasty, class A, whatever, it is rife in society particularly amongst men aged 18-40, to expect that it doesn't transcend into Rugby League is naive.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"No it wasn't a stab in the dark, I used all the Super League players I know and the 6 out of 10 came from the one's from that sample who I know to have taken it.'"
This is just brilliant.
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| If it means that Rangi Chase finally gets psychiatric help, then it is all for the better.
If it means that Widnes Vikings get relegated to the Championship, then it is all for the better.
If it means that Dennis Betts finally gets an operation on his vocal chords, then it is all for the better.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"No it wasn't a stab in the dark, I used all the Super League players I know and the 6 out of 10 came from the one's from that sample who I know to have taken it.
Call it what you want, nasty, class A, whatever, it is rife in society particularly amongst men aged 18-40, to expect that it doesn't transcend into Rugby League is naive.'"
Hard to quantify the percentage of players who have dabbled but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a high number.It is a much bigger problem than people realise in pubs and clubs and it is rife in both sexes. To me it holds no appeal but blokes I know say a night out without some powders or pills isn't a proper night out.i love my ale and a night out but choosing to take these substances whilst out and about is down to the individual.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"Should players even be tested for recreational drugs? I'd estimate that at least 6 out of 10 Super League players will have snorted coke on a night out during their career. Stupid to get banned for it if you ask me, as long as it isn't performance enhancing then they should be allowed to do what they want.'"
Yes they should, taking cocaine directly before a game can give you an advantage, how long and how much I wouldn't know but it certainly does have certain effects that would be beneficial.
Even if there was no percieved gain on the field, every other aspect of taking drugs by players in the professional arena( well anyone in fact) is simply wrong, wrong from so many differing angles.
cocaine purchases fund organised crime, the money could be used for all sorts, human trafficking, slavery, forced prostitution, gun crime, knife crime, serious thefts, more drugs being brought into the country peddeled on the streets and all the huge impact that that has on society.
Then you have the influence that players in a community sport have on the younger generation.
And you're asking if we should test players ...ffs!
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"If it means that Rangi Chase finally gets psychiatric help, then it is all for the better.
If it means that Widnes Vikings get relegated to the Championship, then it is all for the better.
If it means that Dennis Betts finally gets an operation on his vocal chords, then it is all for the better.'"
don't you mean Moutoa Lance Chase?
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