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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"There was an enormous difference stat wise in contribution to effort, performance and effectiveness, almost a 2:1 ratio between the players. Its as though the short list was compiled way back to the CC final date.
=#FF0000Chris Hill/Gareth Ellis: ...... Tackles: =#FF0000 920/577 ...... Missed Tackles: =#FF000017/37 ...... Tackle Busts: =#FF000038/26 ...... Carries: =#FF0000486/255 ...... Metres: =#FF00003983/1819...'"
Ahh, the old "Opta Reasoning".
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| Quote Exiled down south="Exiled down south"Its within our British nature to be nice. You only have to look at the annual sports awards; Frank Bruno, Phil Taylor etc
These are just sympathy votes for a team that has improved because no one else has dominated. The Hull coach was minutes from the door after Widnes for underachievement with a team which has spent 'Big'. They won the CC, a cup that there relegated neighbours reached the final off some 12 months earlier. Since then they have reached there level which is not club of the year nor coach of the year standard. Player of the year I have no issues with.'"
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| Quote Even so, they are THE most improved side in the comp.'"
And that's the award they should have got.
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| Quote Exiled down south wrote:
Its within our British nature to be nice. You only have to look at the annual sports awards; Frank Bruno, Phil Taylor etc
These are just sympathy votes for a team that has improved because no one else has dominated. The Hull coach was minutes from the door after Widnes for underachievement with a team which has spent 'Big'. They won the CC, a cup that there relegated neighbours reached the final off some 12 months earlier. Since then they have reached there level which is not club of the year nor coach of the year standard. Player of the year I have no issues with.
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Pedant alert. Your contribution is invaluable.
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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/10604799/danny-houghton-wins-super-league-man-of-steel-award
Clean sweep for Hull; Club, Coach, MOS not bad for a club that just hung on to the CC, finished nowhere in the LLS and didn't make the Grand Final.
This confirms the mediocrity that SL now accepts as standard.'"
By definitions, doesn't this make yours (and many other teams) distinctly below mediocre?
Oh,
Grow up.
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| If it isn't Leeds, Wigan or Warrington, it must be mediocre.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Just looking at the list of votes, and the following people shouldn't be allowed a vote ever again.
Player 1st Choice
Gadwin Springer Tony Gigot (Catalans Dragons)
Gregory Mounis Theo Fages (St Helens)
Dave Taylor Beau Falloon (Leeds Rhinos)
Josh Bowden Greg Burke (Wigan Warriors)
Mahe Fonua Junior Moors (Castleford Tigers)
[size=150Ross Osborne Dane Tilse (Hull KR)[/size
John Boudebza Jacob Mis)ller (Wakefield Wildcat
Mitch Achurch Chris Clarkson (Hull KR)
Joel Moon Steve Michaels (Hull FC)
Brad Singleton Kyle Amor (St Helens)
Dominic Crosby Jack Hughes (Warrington Wolves)'"
I can only imagine Wada will be testing Mr Osborne at some point soon....
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| Quote If it isn't Leeds, Wigan or Warrington, it must be mediocre.'"
Leave Leeds out of this they have found their level 
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"140 something available votes from the =#FF0000humberside region, only 3 votes for chris hill,'"
Where??
FWIW, I tend to agree with you. I think Chris Hill is a fantastic player and was very surprised he wasn't in the top 3.
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| Quote Karen="Karen"Where??
FWIW, I tend to agree with you. I think Chris Hill is a fantastic player and was very surprised he wasn't in the top 3.'"
Sorry, both sides of hull
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Sorry, both sides of hull'"
The front side & the back side?
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"
Even so, they are THE most improved side in the comp.
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Personally, I couldn't give a toss about who won MOS, Team of the Year, Coach of the Year, etc. The only 'awards' that count are the GF, the Cup and the LLS (in that order).
But being pedantic, on what basis are Hull THE most improved side in the comp? If you're using League position then Hull improved five places from 8th to 3rd, Wire also improved by five places from 6th to 1st.
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