They will be lucky to get the semi finals.

Okay



You urm, do realise finishing in the top 4 puts you into the semi finals, and saints pretty much have that sewn up after beating catalans. I very much doubt luck will be any factor in the outcome whatsoever.

Quite what you think is going to be radically different next season to turn from (apparently) not being champion material this season, to being champion material next season is anyone's guess. Frankly I'm not sure anyone really wants to know either, just more inane nonsensical ramblings from someone who appears to have lost touch with reality.

Hmm
You obviously have knowledge that others don't.
If Saints don't win another game then will they make the top four?
Don't know if you're a Saints follower but if you are, were you one of those baying for Cunninghams blood at the beginning of the season?
Saints are starting to click but it hasn't all fitted yet. That's why I am a realist. Perhaps my years of following the game and how teams develop is far inferior, who knows but I see a good team coming together and a better team when everyone is up to speed. It isn't this year.
Sadly I can't look at things though home and away different coloured glasses and be totally biased. I just call it as I see it. If you have a problem with that, then tough, it's your problem, deal with it however you choose

Can anyone stop them?

Perhaps the RFL [url=http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinaryDisciplinary[/url

They are trying.

Not only are we having to deal with ex-wiganers hyping it up on the commentary, looks like we have them on the panel deciding our fate too.

Can someone tell me how this is a grade C shoulder charge?

A still picture won't but watching it numerous times shows it was. He led with his shoulder to begin

As the still shows, regardless of what he led with, he wrapped the arm, meaning by definition, it couldn't be a shoulder charge. Virtually every tackle "leads with the shoulder" it's how your taught to tackle!

I strongly suspect both will be downgraded to B grade and they both "only" get 1 game

They boo'd him when he came on the screen at the end of he first half against Wire at their ground.

At the moment Cas or Catalan could pip St Helens for 4th spot but looking at the remaining fixtures for each team it's unlikely.

Saints will most probably finish 4th or maybe even 3rd either way that will give them an away semi to either Hull or Wire. That will most likely be the end of their run but who knows injuries can hit any team so anything can happen.

IG

Just seen one of the judges is ill so they are postponing it until Wednesday, as opposed to finding a replacement ASAP.m

All tackles lead with the shoulder!!!!

Never seen a player running to tackle first.
The arms out in front is a favourite with zombies, but generally most humans tend to stick with hit the front with the shoulder and then wrap the arms around.

Exactly, its very rare to see a tackle executed with one or two arms out, the problem was the clash of heads on impact then the ankle injury. Thompson didn't run in with much momentum to define it as a shoulder charge.

i think you know what i meant, but seeing as saints fan boo anything that doesnt go there way, im not surprised your all claiming there was nothing in it apart from thompsons shoulder hitting horos' head!