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| But condemning Saints on the back of an interview is just silly. Of course we can show some sympathy to LH but he has totally gone about this the wrong way and may end up biting him hard in the long run.
We don't know as an absolute what Saints did or did not do, they say they have records (of presumably medical treatments/procedures). What they were and how effective these would be relating to the symptoms again is guesswork here.
As I said I don't doubt that Saints have followed some protocols and procedures, where they enough to get to the bottom of things, was there someone qualified or put forward to speak to LH to try ascertain if there were issues that might have somehow beigf overlooked, we won't know.
Only if this goes further and facts outed about what happened from both parties POV could you make any true judgement and that will probably end in a court.
Unless LH doesn't press further and Saints let the accusations fall by the way which I really can't see happening.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"regardless of legalities, Saints owe a moral duty of care to players representing them. Hohaia clearly and obviously suffered a severe head injury. We saw it happen. That led to his retirement. Its incredibly wrong of the game to simply abandon him.
Im not particularly having a go at Saints, im sure many clubs would do the same. Its still wrong.'"
Morality is irrelevant.
His decision to retire was not solely due to the injuries from the Flower punch. If it was, he could easily sue Flower. This would never happen though. You have multiple cases in the world of football whereby the court has failed to accept another player legitimately ended another players career, negligent, yes, deliberate no. I think Paul Elliott, Dean Saunders case is testament to this.
I have no doubt Lance will be part of the Rugby League unions and have insurance policies to protect against loss of earnings.
Saints, by their statement stood by him, proved him with the best care possible. This was their obligation, you cannot pay him after he resigned. Just because it is sport doesn't mean it holds sway in any other way than civvy street.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I am shocked at St Helens' cruel behaviour.
I once gave Eammon McManus a large piece of my steak, while at a post-match dinner at the Wembley restaurant in Canet, southern France, because there was not enough steak to go around.
I will never do that again.'"
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Quote Towns88="Towns88":D
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How would you know, you goose?
I was there at Le Wembley restaurant after a Catalans vs St Helens match, with Sean Long and Jayson Cayless as well as Eammon McManus, and the French television crew led by Rodolphe Pires. Several of us gave up part of our steaks because the restaurant had run out of steaks by the time Eammon and his colleague had ordered.
As I wrote earlier, I will never give Eammon anything ever again, because of the way his club has treated Lancelot Hohaia.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_ ... illon.html
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How would you know, you goose?
I was there at Le Wembley restaurant after a Catalans vs St Helens match, with Sean Long and Jayson Cayless as well as Eammon McManus, and the French television crew led by Rodolphe Pires. Several of us gave up part of our steaks because the restaurant had run out of steaks by the time Eammon and his colleague had ordered.
As I wrote earlier, I will never give Eammon anything ever again, because of the way his club has treated Lancelot Hohaia.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_ ... illon.html
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| Great story!
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE" Lancelot '"

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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"But condemning Saints on the back of an interview is just silly.'"
Isn't it just.
That interview gives LH's side of the story, and the rather ill-advised statement from St Helens gives another; the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, and the way this is unfolding, it looks like a court will decide.
I would suggest that the loser in all this will be RL - Flower's actions were indefensible, despite the best efforts of some Wigan fans, and the RFL's response was weak; that could be compounded if it's also found that St Helens didn't act in the players best interests.
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Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How would you know, you goose?
I was there at Le Wembley restaurant after a Catalans vs St Helens match, with Sean Long and Jayson Cayless as well as Eammon McManus, and the French television crew led by Rodolphe Pires. Several of us gave up part of our steaks because the restaurant had run out of steaks by the time Eammon and his colleague had ordered.
As I wrote earlier, I will never give Eammon anything ever again, because of the way his club has treated Lancelot Hohaia.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_ ... illon.html'"
Goose?! Sacrebleu!
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I was there at Le Wembley restaurant after a Catalans vs St Helens match, with Sean Long and Jayson Cayless as well as Eammon McManus, and the French television crew led by Rodolphe Pires. Several of us gave up part of our steaks because the restaurant had run out of steaks by the time Eammon and his colleague had ordered.
As I wrote earlier, I will never give Eammon anything ever again, because of the way his club has treated Lancelot Hohaia.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_ ... illon.html'"
Goose?! Sacrebleu!
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"You damn well should be able to. How utterly heartless do you have to be see a player under your employ sustain a serious head injury that ends his career and think your responsibility ends there.
Im pretty appalled that his contract wasnt paid up to be honest and its a crying shame how utterly blase the game is about players who leave it at 30 years of age, often having not earned a whole lot, often with bodies battered and broken down and often with not a whole lot of alternative options'"
I have to agree with smokey here. His career ended wearing a Saints shirt.
THey should have had the decency to support him for a while rather than thinking great he has gone lest save some money.
That is what i would expect from the most callous and heartless employer which does not reflect well on saints.
I and most Giants fans criticised the way they dealt with Keith Mason i genuinley think saints fans should think how this reflects on their club.
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That is one very usual statement. The strength of the wording is very odd indeed.
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That is one very usual statement. The strength of the wording is very odd indeed.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"I have to agree with smokey here. His career ended wearing a Saints shirt.
THey should have had the decency to support him for a while rather than thinking great he has gone lest save some money.
That is what i would expect from the most callous and heartless employer which does not reflect well on saints.
I and most Giants fans criticised the way they dealt with Keith Mason i genuinley think saints fans should think how this reflects on their club.'"
It depends who is telling the truth. If Saints pressured Hohaia, a man suffering symptoms of concussion injuries, into playing as he makes out, I agree entirely and would be disgusted at the club. If Saints are right and Hohaia hid any symptoms from them until he decided to take an extended leave, I can fully understand them refusing that, particularly if the scans at the time were not indicating any issues with his health.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I am shocked at St Helens' cruel behaviour.
I once gave Eammon McManus a large piece of my steak, while at a post-match dinner at the Wembley restaurant in Canet, southern France, because there was not enough steak to go around.
I will never do that again.'"
I get it, it's a gag in pretty poor taste in that Hohiai now perhaps has a life changing injury.
Players = pieces of meat, very clever you utter turd.
The fact you continue to labour the point, following other posters responses, merely underlines your petty grasp for attention and your utter gormcloptitude.
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