I don't know what do those three have in common?

1. St Helens
2. Wigan
3. Leeds
4. Warrington
5. Huddersfield
6. Catalans
7. Castleford
8. Hull FC
9. Hull KR
10. Salford
11. Widnes
12. Wakefield

Probably won't be far off, though Cas could finish in top four. in 2016 Warrington are effectively 'starting again' as the all-Brit halfback policy they tried after Briers' s retirement did not work. If the new structure clicks early they could do well, but a lot of new players to bed in at once may lead to disappointment.

But we won those games so it doesn't really. The games ww list v cas away for instance we should have won but we had a winger who couldn't or would defend

So, the close games you lost could have gone the other way but, the close games as you won couldn't?
Fantastic dullard logic on show there.

Look at this for instance.

At BV Wakey beat you by small margin. You say that could've gone the other way.

At the KC you beat us by a small margin. But you say that can't have gone the other way.

He is good, isn't he?

I think it is very difficult to call.

Top 5: Leeds have lost a lot of leadership and experience but still have a very good squad. Wigan's young side are all a year older and with Tomkins returning to add a bit more class could be very strong. St Helens look strong from 1 to 17 but have little cover in the backs. Both Huddersfield and Warrington have made a few good signings.

Mid table: I expect Castleford to do well again, a bit like Wigan whoever they loose the team seems good enough to cover it, Hull have made good signings and could be a force (how many times has that been said though), Hull KR and Catalan have decent squads, Catalan on paper look very strong but I'm not sure about the coach.

Bottom 3: Salford, Wakefield and Widnes. They don't look to be in the same class as the other 9.

A lot of course will depend on injuries as they always have a bearing.

St Helens
Leeds
Huddersfield
Wigan
Warrington
Castleford
Catalan
Hull
Hull KR
Salford
Wakefield
Widnes

I'm expecting one or two surprises this year, I think it may be very interesting.

1- Leigh
2 - Bradford
3 - Halifax
4 - London
5 - Sheffield
6 - Dewsbury
7 - Fev
8 - Batley
9 - Workington
10 -Swinton
11 -Whitehaven
12 -Oldham

Quite unbelievable really.

"It doesn't matter because we won those"

Jesus.

You all have Rovers in the bottom four!















So do I.

Keeping Campese on the pitch is huge for Rovers. If he stays fit then they are very capable of making the 8, but I don't see how they can win the big games without him.

Going for some big calls but here goes. Up to middle 8,s only anything after that.

1, Wigan
2, Warrington
3, Leeds
4, Catalan
5, Castleford
6, St. Helens
7,Huddersfield
8,Hull
9,Widnes
10,Hull Kr
11,Wakefield
12,Salford

Maybe points difference or odd point between top 3 rest think will be really close