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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"No, he wasn't, as has been pointed out numerous times when an identical situation has occurred throughout the season on Sky Sports. Even Stuart Cummings has said on numerous occasions that the decision in that match was utterly wrong. Don't show yourself up again by pretending that it was anything close to a legitimate decision.'"
You just fail to realise that their's a difference between a player being tackled and a player being held.
The 'go back and PTB' was introduced for guys who tried offloading just as held was called. This happens in incidents when the ball carrier will still be on his feet but his momentum has been stopped. It wasn't introduced for players who are clearly tackled on the floor with a defender on his back to pop up and run off. (If he threw the ball when on the ground to a teammate he'd be pinged for passing off the floor so why shouldn't he be pinged for running off after tackled?)
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| fc got screwed by aliberts' video ref decision in perpignan a few weeks ago so no sympathy from me! as someone said, swings n roundabouts, take it on the chin and move on
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| everyone gets bad calls from the ref, it happens.
However for Bernard to get so angry over this shows that it has been happening for years now and there is a sense of paranoia surrounding the club.
We sat in the stands at the magic weekend thinking of the best possible way for the ref to get Huddersfield back in the match, we have become that cynical.
So it could be all our fault, all the officials or somewhere in the middle.
With all of Dragons home matches being on Sky, the neutral will naturally see plenty of decisions go our way.
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| This isn't the first time either. I remember Guasch levelling similar allegations of bias and corruption against the RFL a couple of years ago, backed up by the coach at the time Trent Robinson having a whinge about it. Brian McDermott then pointed out how many penalties the Dragons get at home due to the crowd, and got fined as a result.
The RFL are so petrified that Guasch will cut and run, leaving them without a SL club outside the M62 corridor, that he seems to have licence to say whatever he wants about whoever he wants without censure. He's accused match officials and those who run the game of being corrupt. He should be facing a heavy fine and a ban from the game. Won't happen though, he's got the RFL over a barrel and he knows it.
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| Quote The Horses Mouth="The Horses Mouth"Widnes were on the wrong end of a terrible decision at Wigan on Friday where a player was a mile offside chasing a kick and they scored from it.
Sometimes things don't go your way, sometimes they do, you just have to accept that and get on with it.'"
Sometimes though, the mistakes are so obvious that you end up questioning how a supposed professional could make them. I agree that a borderline forward can easily be missed but some are so bad it's either complete incompetence or turning a blind eye in certain circumstances. The one that always baffles me is the Chris Green winner at Magic, how on earth did the match official miss it in the first place, then two linesmen missed it only for the video ref to blatantly ignore the fact he was 3m offside at the kick, even though he watched it several times over two minutes. Can this really be put down to an 'error'
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| Would Guasch not be better off getting a good coach , That would certainly help ?
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Would Guasch not be better off getting a good coach , That would certainly help ?'"
Spot on.
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| “I would like someone to explain to me how the second try for Huddersfield was awarded by professional referees given how far forward the ball travelled.”
Let me explain Mr chairman. The ball travelled forward because of a fundamental piece of physics called momentum. For a demonstration of momentum try driving your car quickly at a wall without wearing your seatbelt. The movement of your body through the windscreen is an example of momentum at work. If that's a bit too drastic an experiment to try out then read the works on classical mechanics of the great English physicist and mathematician Sir Isaac Newton. Or indeed any basic physics GCSE or A level text book.
In fact the reason the ball travelled forward is the same reason it travelled forward for most of the times the ball was passed by both sides during that game.
Hope that helps.
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| Quote jools="jools"“I would like someone to explain to me how the second try for Huddersfield was awarded by professional referees given how far forward the ball travelled.”
Let me explain Mr chairman. The ball travelled forward because of a fundamental piece of physics called momentum. For a demonstration of momentum try driving your car quickly at a wall without wearing your seatbelt. The movement of your body through the windscreen is an example of momentum at work. If that's a bit too drastic an experiment to try out then read the works on classical mechanics of the great English physicist and mathematician Sir Isaac Newton. Or indeed any basic physics GCSE or A level text book.
In fact the reason the ball travelled forward is the same reason it travelled forward for most of the times the ball was passed by both sides during that game.
Hope that helps.'"
So, a forward pass doesn't exist, it is just given on a referees whim.
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| Quote jools="jools"“I would like someone to explain to me how the second try for Huddersfield was awarded by professional referees given how far forward the ball travelled.”
Let me explain Mr chairman. The ball travelled forward because of a fundamental piece of physics called momentum. For a demonstration of momentum try driving your car quickly at a wall without wearing your seatbelt. The movement of your body through the windscreen is an example of momentum at work. If that's a bit too drastic an experiment to try out then read the works on classical mechanics of the great English physicist and mathematician Sir Isaac Newton. Or indeed any basic physics GCSE or A level text book.
In fact the reason the ball travelled forward is the same reason it travelled forward for most of the times the ball was passed by both sides during that game.
Hope that helps.'"
No that pass was forward.
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| Quote Him="Him"No that pass was forward.'"
Your not kidding, Dan Marino would have been proud.
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| The question wasn't about whether the ball was passed forward- it was a question about why the ball travelled forwards. Which suggests he doesn't....... like sooooo many others...... Understand what a forward pass is.
The TJ was in a perfect position to see whether Grix passed the ball backwards- How far forward the ball finished up is irrelevant. .
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