Even the Leeds fans don't believe him to be THE best but to say he isn't amongst the best of the last 20 years is nonsense, and again shows just how underated he is by other clubs fans, same in an England shirt where he was often the scapegoat for our many shortcomings.

Sinfield strengths are more based around those "intangibles" that people don't appreciate, like game management and decision making. As a Saints fan, we suffered more than anyone at the hands of these as he guided Leeds past all those GFs against us.

It's because to way too many League fans a turn of pace and a bit of fancy footwork is worth far more than having a great brain, tactical nous and the ability to utterly control a game. When he won the Golden Boot this place was awash with people saying that the likes of Ben Barba were better Rugby League players. I enjoy flair like everyone else, but while the likes of Barba might win you points and even the odd game, the Sinfield's of this world win you championships.

Whatever the performances a re like, next season will be weird at Leeds without our two figureheads.

A good watch if you've got an hour to spare, and says as much about Sinfield as any game clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tO_SQCAcM

A good watch if you've got an hour to spare, and says as much about Sinfield as any game clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tO_SQCAcM

Apart the obvious lack of pace I've always found some of the comments towards Kevin Sinfield a little patronising. His lack of pace is obvious, however is all round skill set for the most part has been superb. Excellent kicker, superb hands, and an intelligent runner. All this coupled with his superb ability to read the game have made him one of the best players of his era IMO.

Absolutely. Speed of thought should never be underestimated either.

This is a great day for England rugby league. It cements Gareth Widdop's position at No. 6.

Good luck to the lad, he’s put enough shifts in at the top, nice for him to slow down as he heads towards retirement.

I think he’ll do ok, he’s got a great rugby brain, & has got to be in the top three all-time players for Leeds, he’ll be a big miss.

He'd already retired from Internationals you utter bell

Depends what you class as the best I suppose, I wouldn't have him in the top 10 players in SL, maybe not the top 20.

Fair enough... I'd be genuinely interested to know whom the 20 better players are