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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I think the rest of SL are safe as long as the 2 Hull clubs hold on to their respective coaches.'"
This.
Also HKR lack the squad depth needed. They'll be in the middle 8 IMO.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Don't count on Carney shooting himself in the foot. If his former Cronulla teammate Ben Pomeroy has half a brain he will look after the Todd Man and keep him off the drink.'"
There may be an equally good chance that Benjamin Pomeroy joins him in the bar.
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| These types of threads will be great to look back on come the end of July.
Ask most people this time last season if they thought Cas would finish in the top4 and make a CC Final, having finished 12th the year before. You wouldn't have found many takers.
I'm not saying specifically that Hull KR will finish top4, just that the gap between the top teams and the lower teams isn't as wide as some might think, and teams that are well coached, fighting for eachother and have their best players on form are capable of finishing high up the table, just like Cas did.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"I just don't see it. I've already said your halves are better on paper, and you could make the case for Blair and Sio (I'd rather have our boys but I could see why you would disagree). But Sa is better than Goulding and Mantellato isn't in Lineham's league.'"
On a serious note, in what way have you based your opinion that Sa is better than Goulding? One pre season friendly? Or that Micheals is a far better player than Blair?
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| Quote Rupert Pupkin="Rupert Pupkin"On a serious note, in what way have you based your opinion that Sa is better than Goulding? One pre season friendly? Or that Micheals is a far better player than Blair?'"
I never said Michaels was far better than Blair. In fact I never said anything of the sort. Tbh I don't know enough about either of them to make an informed comment.
As for Sa. He was a very good centre before he went to union, and has played for NZ. He's a big guy, decent pace, good hands and a handful for any defence. Towards the back end of last season he was showing signs of his pre Union form. The friendly isn't a good indicator given the opposition.
My opinion of Goulding is that he's a decent centre. Handling is good, but he offers little athletically. He's nearly 4st lighter and 5" shorter than Sa, and he's hardly a speed merchant. I feel he is a steady player who has often been made to look better by the quality of his Wigan team mates. The same goes for Josh Charnley.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"
As for Sa. He was a very good centre before he went to union, and has played for NZ. He's a big guy, decent pace, good hands and a handful for any defence. Towards the back end of last season he was showing signs of his pre Union form. The friendly isn't a good indicator given the opposition.'"
How long ago was he was a good centre at Catalan? I saw plenty of threads on your board regarding his poor fitness and lack of impact, didn't he play games in the SR for you also? Please don't over exaggerate how good Sa is because you don't actually know.
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| Quote Rupert Pupkin="Rupert Pupkin"How long ago was he was a good centre at Catalan? I saw plenty of threads on your board regarding his poor fitness and lack of impact, didn't he play games in the SR for you also? Please don't over exaggerate how good Sa is because you don't actually know.'"
It took him a while to get going yes. But having spent a year playing Union (and not playing very often) that is expected, and yes he played his first few games at SR, mainly because we wanted to ease him in and give him minutes off the bench and it's pointless using one of your interchanges on a centre.
I'm not really exaggerating how good he is. Is he a big guy? By any standards he is. Has he got decent pace? Well he's not blinding but he can shift for his size. Has he got good hands? Yes. Is he a handful? Well check out the highlights from the KC derby last year. Your lads certainly couldn't stop him.
Anyway. I am happy with Sa, and I don't particularly rate Goulding. How about you tell me why Goulding is so good?
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| Yes I think so, the signing of a 30 year old NRL reserve half-back could completely transform Hull KR, the way it's looking they may have to leave SL and go join the NRL for some proper competition.
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| Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"It took him a while to get going yes. But having spent a year playing Union (and not playing very often) that is expected, and yes he played his first few games at SR, mainly because we wanted to ease him in and give him minutes off the bench and it's pointless using one of your interchanges on a centre.
I'm not really exaggerating how good he is. Is he a big guy? By any standards he is. Has he got decent pace? Well he's not blinding but he can shift for his size. Has he got good hands? Yes. Is he a handful? Well check out the highlights from the KC derby last year. Your lads certainly couldn't stop him.
Anyway. I am happy with Sa, and I don't particularly rate Goulding. How about you tell me why Goulding is so good?'"
Because he has played for Wigan, it's called the "Craig Murdock" syndrome.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Because he has played for Wigan, it's called the "Craig Murdock" syndrome.'"
Don't you be dissing the Doc, he's FC's biggest fan in this city.
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| I watched a lot of Campese in his early days in Canberra reserves and I'm a massive fan.
Even though he had some purple patches in firstgrade and played for Australia, I don't think we ever saw the best of him in the NRL, where he really didn't thrive under the robotic style played these days.
If he can gel with the players around him, he will love playing a more off the cuff style than he was ever allowed to play in the NRL.
I say his lack of form in recent time has nothing to do with injuries, and everything to do with both him and Ricky Stuart having massive egos and both being control freaks.
Being under a young coach and being able to call a lot of the shots will suit him down to the ground I think.
There are a lot of pieces that have to fall into place, but I can see Campese having his best year in a long time.
At his best he can and has led Canberra to wins over the best teams in the NRL.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"To answer the op, the big 4 are not threatened.
Can KR make the top 8, possibly, although both Hull clubs have generally failed to max their potential in recent years.'"
In FC's case this will definitely change in 2015 though. Adam Pearson, the font of all rugby knowledge, has already publicly stated that his team of stars will finish top four and his marvels at under 19's will be ripping their league up. This, along with daily articles in the local Hull paper from various players and Lee Radford himself have convinced the entire population of the city that Hull FC are definitely the big movers of next season.
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