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Were those decrying London doing the same thing after the CC semis in 2010?

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Pathetic performance, gutless, if i was a London fan i'd be livid, if i was a player i'd be ashamed.

David and Gus are running the club into the ground, the buck(& dusty) stops with them as far as i'm concerned.

I don't think i've known a club that actually has the money to compete be run so badly.

You'd rather have Gerald Ratner running the club.

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Quote: Him "I'm not too worried by the ground, it's London's performance that is the biggest problem.[size A good, competitive game and no-one notices the empty seats. [/size
No pro team should be being beaten 34-0 at half time of a Challenge Cup Semi-Final. Especially with the lack of fire and effort from London.

It's a shame, because I think a London club is important, but they just look like a dying club waiting for someone to finally put them out of their misery and switch the life support off.'"


Funny that, The Giants currently top SL and are very competitive, however everyone seems to notice the empty seats, its all we ever hear about!!!

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No pro team should be being beaten 34-0 at half time of a Challenge Cup Semi-Final. Especially with the lack of fire and effort from London. .'"


I agree. Any club suffering a tonking like that should be booted out of the league permanently.

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Quote: FLYINGPROP "Funny that, The Giants currently top SL and are very competitive, however everyone seems to notice the empty seats, its all we ever hear about!!!'"

A different situation. The empty seats in such a big stadium like John Smiths detracts from the atmosphere and is of financial concern when it's an average crowd across a season.
A one-off game like a semi-final is more about how it appears on TV. There were enough there so it didnt appear empty and if the game had been close and competitive people watching on TV wouldn't notice the empty seats.
A more than half full LSV in a one off televised game is different to a quarter full John Smiths week-in week-out.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "The cynic in me is wondering whether that performance was some kind of planned protest by the Broncos players, making a point over something by embarrasing the club on national tv ?- surely no top flight team can actually be that bad !!'"


No I think we had the ''protest ' against Wigan in the league - agree with the poster who suggested the club should refund the travelling fans costs

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Funny how memories are twisted by time! At the moment London are the worst team in the league & got torn a new one by one of the best, so what? The team at the top of the table was only a few seasons ago the worst team & Wigan were in dire straits staring at relegation things go in cycles & things can change but not if they are not given the oportunity to do so & we have had teams go whole seasons without a win no one was screaming to dump them. They have not gone bust or cheated on the cap which can't be said of others in the league just get off their backs & support your own team.

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Quote: Beverley red "Funny how memories are twisted by time! At the moment London are the worst team in the league & got torn a new one by one of the best, so what? The team at the top of the table was only a few seasons ago the worst team & Wigan were in dire straits staring at relegation things go in cycles & things can change but not if they are not given the oportunity to do so & we have had teams go whole seasons without a win no one was screaming to dump them. They have not gone bust or cheated on the cap which can't be said of others in the league just get off their backs & support your own team.'"


London Losses in order of how heavy

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+34 v Salford
+19 v Sheffield (CC)
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+12 v Featherstone (CC)
+9 v Bradford
+7 v St Helens

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Hull FC
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Quote: Horatio Yed "London Losses in order of how heavy

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+34 v Salford
+19 v Sheffield (CC)
+14 v Castleford
+12 v Featherstone (CC)
+9 v Bradford
+7 v St Helens

Draws
Hull FC
Castleford'"

So what the only people that concerns is the suporters & owners of London. In 18 years of super league they have finished as high as second & had a challenge cup final place. More succsess than the team I support & Salford, Wakefield & Castleford. Some team has to be bottom at the moment its their turn just be glad its not your team.

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Should they, shouldn't they??? Boot them out, keep them in.

Settle down folks, the SL chairmen have taken steps to sort this all out for you by bringing back P&R icon_smile.gif

London fans will be comforted by their history of woodenspoonophobia. What's the betting that next year they'll finish mid table and two other more worthy clubs will be sacrificed? If I had to choose 2 clubs to come down to tumbleweed town it would be Castleford & Wakefield. What a massive boost to our league that would be. The colossal battle between the three Wakey clubs would be awesome and would bring a massive shot in the arm to The Championships.

So please London. We need you in SL. Come on you Broncos! ! ! !

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I'm pretty sure Mr Hughes is none to pleased either. Lets face it, he is bank rolling this club year in year out as the fans whilst contributing are never going to bear the full weight of this club.

London's survival is down to a benefactor, like the vast majority of SL clubs, but the London rich man does seem to have to dig deeper than most to support his club. The big question is how long his patience and pockets can last and is there another money man ready to lose a substantial amount of money yearly, for this kind of performance.

Whilst the fans deserve better, the players seem to forget who is employing them and keeping them in position where they play for a living rather than work.

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Quote: littlerich "Should they, shouldn't they??? Boot them out, keep them in.

Settle down folks, the SL chairmen have taken steps to sort this all out for you by bringing back P&R
When are the powers to be understand that the London Broncos are no longer fit for purpose and yesterdays embarrassment was the nail in the coffin.
You,ve got to feel sorry for some of the very limited loyal supporters who don,t know if they will have players and a ground next season.
The "London Concept" heavily loaded with overseas players had its honeymoon period many, many years ago, when will the RFL realise that from a population of over 10 million+ a support base of 2000 fans reducing is proof that our sport will never take a foothold in the capital.

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A lot of people have said the result is more embarrassing than the crowd, but, whilst you'd hate to see lots of results like that, freak games ( or freak teams making the semi finals ) do happen, and we all know that League very dramatically amplifies difference in performance into huge differences in scores, especially in fast summer conditions.

No, the crowd is far more of a problem, as is the fact that French and Davies* are the best the BBC can be bothered to wheel out on this one-of-few days we get to spread the game to the wider public. If you're an optimist, or even Smokey, and convinced we're in safe hands with Nigel and his mates, then maybe you don't go as far as saying the game is in trouble, but only the hopelessly bewildered wouldn't at least recognise that our cup competition is.

(* and by the way, they both deserve credit in a huge number of ways for what they've put into the game - far more than any of us ever have - its nothing personal, but its just a weak combination as a commentary team which does nothing good for our profile )

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Quote: Judder Man "When are the powers to be understand that the London Broncos are no longer fit for purpose and yesterdays embarrassment was the nail in the coffin.
You,ve got to feel sorry for some of the very limited loyal supporters who don,t know if they will have players and a ground next season.
The "London Concept" heavily loaded with overseas players had its honeymoon period many, many years ago, when will the RFL realise that from a population of over 10 million+ a support base of 2000 fans reducing is proof that our sport will never take a foothold in the capital.'"



I would never say never.

I do think people jump to extremes. Going from we need London or SKY and all sponsors will pull out of RL and the sport will collapse in on itself.

To RL just does not work in the capital.

It's neither. The issue is that the Broncos have not worked in the capital since the overseas quota was brought into line. The loyal supporters will have more of an idea why this is, but from the outside, it's difficult to understand how you can spend at cap and be so poor.

I'm not advocating saying the Broncos should stay in SL, but also neither should they be thrown out as they are not flavour of the month.

People wanting them out at all costs, sits as badly with me as the RFL wanting them in at all costs. If they are going to die then that's down to the owner and fans. But RL can exsist in the capital, it may not be as a top flight SL club in 2013.

But certainly the skolars are pulling their own weight.

I think part of the reaction to London, is that London have had advantages with quotas and the licencing system set up with London and other expansion areas in mind that they could never be at risk. People feel now is a chance to get the knife in.

I do wish London where doing better, but if they are in the bottom 2 next year there should be no special measure to save them. However if they survive, there should be no special measure to relegate them. I just want an even system, it's then down to the clubs where they end up.

Long term - Gillingham looks a better bet for RL, but they need to either adopt a franchise or set up their own club to progress through the ranks. Whether that will be the Broncos again comes back to the owner and fans.

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