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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"In the main I agree with what you are saying, but the game cannot on one hand be arguing over whether or not we have the player pool to support 14 franchises, and on the other hand be sanguine about losing players like Watkins.
If the game can afford to lose the likes of, Tomkins and Watkins, we shouldn’t be talking about cutting the size of the league, we should be making it bigger. If those players are disposable and losing them isn’t such a big issue, then we have enough players to be bringing more teams to the top table.'"
There's an even bigger - but more hidden - problem than when we obviously lose a high-profile player. It's the 'loss' of players way before they even pick RL as an interesting sport in which athletic prowess could be translated into a high-earning career. This seems to get forgotten with the focus on Tomkins, etc.
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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"I'm dreading the thought that Peacock might try to pursue a career at the RFL when he retires and end up with some sort of influence. Pretty much everything he suggests is the exact opposite of what should actually be done.'"
I feel the same, yet keep hearing what a wonderful administrator he would be. Am I missing something?
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| Quote Rhinoshaund III="Rhinoshaund III"There seems to be quite alot of opposition to a 10 team league because it would mean "9 home games only" "repeat fixtures" "playing same teams 3 times".
Surely this opens up the opportunity for a bit of mid-season representative action without any SL games and the question of backing up??
Start in March
10 teams = 18 weekly rounds
In addition - The magic weekend as an extra fixture (Derby day or Based on last seasons standings 1v2 etc) making 19 weekly rounds
Challenge Cup = rds 5, 1/4's, Semi's, Final
2 or 3 England (Hopefully GB) vs Exiles representative games played on a standalone weekend with no SL matches
Playoffs (dont know what would be best for a 10 team league) Perhaps top 4?
End of season International series (3 matches?)
Thats 31 weeks of RL between March and October (not including any friendlies played in a 4 month Off season)'"
One problem Rhino,
The loss of income from fewer league matches with the added cost of an increased cap will have nails coming at the coffin lid faster than ever before.
The only viable solution is to allow the wealthier clubs to have 1 or 2 players that can be exempt from the cap.
Unless there is a miracle with British sponsorship, then we simply can not compete with the Aussie game.
However, there are a limited number of teams in Britain and Australia combined and the most likely scenario is that the number of top British players down under will increase and this may cause a small drop in standards in Britain.
As mentioned by other posters, Peacock is doing nothing to look after RL players interests in the UK.
By calling for a cut in the number of teams in the top tier of competition he is deliberately limiting the number of opportunities for young lads to make a career from professional RL, which in turn will reduce quality still further.
We need to accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and to a certain extent, realise that its "just a phase" and if there is a player drain to Australia, take the chance to give some younger lads a chance.
You never know, we might even find the next Ellery Hanley of Neil Fox !
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The 2 leagues of 10 seems to catch support because it offers solutions to things people have invented as our problems. It doesn’t actually address any of our actual real issues.
2 leagues of ten well not help produce more quality players, it will not get us a wider support base, it will not get us higher visibility as a game, it will not bring in better sponsors, it will not help spread the game, it will not help clubs challenge at the very top of SL, and it will not bring more money in to the game.
The league and the game needs to stop looking for a silver bullet, Franchising gives clubs the time and space to grow, they should get on with doing that. Get on with selling tickets, get on with selling a spectacle, get on with improving youth development, get on with improving their corporate departments. When we do that pretty much everything else will follow .'"
Holy camel poo Batman. I agree with Smokey. 
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| Quote Him="Him"I don't think a 10 team league would work. It means either 9 home games or repeat fixtures.
I'd do something along these lines:
14 teams
6 team playoff
Large payout for finishing first
5 year licensing system with far more transparency
Place in expanded WCC for Challenge Cup winner
=#FF0000When SL teams play a Championships team they can only use 1 overseas player=#4040BFSome way of rewarding the Championship GF winner, be it financial or maybe a bye to the Challenge Cup Quarter Final next season?
I'd also increase the amount paid to Championship clubs from the SL TV deal, maybe into =#008040a central pot to be used for marketing Championship clubs and certain games?'"
Something many of us has suggested in the past
Yes , but what ? , a Challenge cup ' bye ' ? , no
Desperatley needed , possibly an RFL ' marketing team ' moving from club to club focusing on 1 match similar to what wigan do with ' The Big one ' , that is of course if the sports administration actually believe the lower tiers do have a future that can be ' Vibrant ' and worth winning
Licencing has removed the fear factor , but has also created an apathy factor , what is needed is something in between to focus the minds of the SL club owners , having a growing 2 nd tier would no doubt achieve that
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The 2 leagues of 10 seems to catch support because it offers solutions to things people have invented as our problems. It doesn’t actually address any of our actual real issues.
2 leagues of ten well not help produce more quality players, it will not get us a wider support base, it will not get us higher visibility as a game, it will not bring in better sponsors, it will not help spread the game, it will not help clubs challenge at the very top of SL, and it will not bring more money in to the game.
The league and the game needs to stop looking for a silver bullet, Franchising gives clubs the time and space to grow, they should get on with doing that. Get on with selling tickets, get on with selling a spectacle, get on with improving youth development, get on with improving their corporate departments. When we do that pretty much everything else will follow .'"
Smokey's nailed that
What concerns me is that Jamie Peacock has been used as a mouthpiece in recents seasons to voice / promote ideas that became reality shortly afterwards. I wonder if these proposals are further advanced than we realise?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Standard of living is a subjective thing when comparing a place like Aus to a place like the UK. Its not all about the massive prawns.'"
Stewart Lee. 
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| Quote Buggo="Buggo"Is that based on experience in Australia?'"
Well I've been to Oz a couple of times, have several mates who have been there on a gap year or emigrated and whilst the weather's good, I can't really see a massive difference tbh. Factor in the decrease to quality of life when you are on the other side of the world from all your networks and I can't see a mass exodus over there.
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| I wonder if Peacock would want 10 teams if his team was one of the 4 to be dropped?
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"NRL salary cap is 4.2 million pound next season and growing every year, SL will never compete now the NRL is getting its real worth from TV deals'"
I say amen to that. i would sooner see lots of young kids playing in our league and the older more experienced players going to the NRL. Better that than the dark side.
That way we may end up with a really strong English/GB team with a realistic chance of winning a cup or dare i say it an ashes series. How good would that be?
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