I don't think any Bradford fan can moan about Wakey's ground. Normally when you have a big hole in the ground you call it a quarry but you call it Odsal home of the Bradford bulls

The thing thats makes us Wakefield fans mad is the fact that you still have your team together. No one has been sold the free up money, nobody! At the start of last season before we conceded defeat and called in the administrators, we slashed our wage bill dramatically. We cut our cloth to avoid administration. Even then the administrators still sold players well below value, we were against it from then on. Even getting rid of the back room stuff is not that damaging because they can be set back on tomorrow assuming you come out of admin. Did Bradford actually do anything to avoid admin except double your bets up?

That's up to the administrator though it's his decision. He may still sell players who knows.

Yes they tried to avoid administration they 'honestly' took 500K off the fans. Not forgetting Andy Lynch, Burgess, Fielden etc. all going in recent years for big bucks.

Not complaining about Belle Vue am I? Just pointing out that the RFL are generally accomodating to every club.

Isn't rangers situ down to bad management then? who runs the club? and why havent any players been sold yet?...they've had offers

Why hasn't the administrator sold off Bradford's players, you mean? Because he's cut costs in other areas and, as of right now, has no need to sell off players.

I think that one of Bulls creditors is the taxman, so if they cannot pay the tax its the same as Rangers, but it has already been pointed out, the RFL has no spine for such matters.

The administrator sells the players no the RFL so don't see your gripe.

I can see fans championship fans frsutrations, they virtually have no way of getting into SL, even when an SL clubs goes belly up, they still probably won't get in.

The problem is the licensing system. We have 5 teams who don't have anything to play for since May! Fans aren't going to pay to watch a friendly game. We hear all the time on SKY "Team X are preparing for next year" What about this year? Teams should have something to play for the entire season.

It should be decided on the pitch if a team should be in SL and i have always said this.

Every club has to invest in their academies - it's part of the SL criteria. There is absolutely no reason why the Bulls cannot remain a big side in the Championship and utilise their youth structures. The loyalty of the fans will be key and they'll be able to afford to keep those structures. Will it weaken the game? I don't know - it's all hypothetical. Can you imagine the immense pride a full-time team of Bradford born local youngsters playing with pride and ripping up the division below and getting them back into SL? There is absolutely no reason why Bradford can't operate a full-time team for two years on their crowds and build a solid foundation ready for SL in 2015 potentially.

Sure, it may mean that some of the better youngsters are picked off by Leeds, Huddersfield, Cas and Wakefield (and Halifax if they go up) as they look for SL. But I don't think that the Bulls stepping down for two seasons will do any long-term damage on the scale of say Cas going down to the Championship with the chance of no return.

No, we don't model ourselves on football but we shouldn't have a system which encourages the same teams to sit at the top table even if they fail financially. Otherwise, what is the point of the 20 odd teams below existing if they can't get into SL? The Championships don't get the same incomes and are part-time. It is impossible to say how a Halifax or Featherstone would cope in a SL environment if they're never given the opportunity. Otherwise, let's tell them other 20 teams that there's absolutely no chance of them becoming SL clubs, shut up the drawbridge and let's just have ONE professional league of 14 teams? That seems to be what you're advocating?

If Bulls were demoted it would set a precedent - harsh I know. But it would mean that if clubs do go down the path of spending what they don't have they're in effect dicing with their own future. If we were to set a precedent that Bulls remained in, it would mean that other clubs could go down the same route and in effect be kept in. It's morally wrong.

As I said in my previous post, if Bulls come out of admin the hard way - they should remain in SL.

Money.



I'm in favour of franchising and don't have a problem with it because it forces clubs to be professional about their operation which is essential in a professional sport. I'd prefer twelve teams as well.

im sure you would just out of interest im sure the bradford bulls would be one of your twelve teams.



no reason at all that the bulls couldnt run a full time squad for a couple of years in the championship and keep hold of its youngsters given that they wouldnt be part of the salary cap.

in our last year in the championship we mannaged to bring through both joe westerman and richard owen whilst also keeping hold of michael shenton and craig huby so it can be done but like most bulls supporters you just want the slate wiping clean and carrying on has normal.

McClennan is a Leeds fan.

No doubt he wants Bulls in is for the local derby and because he knows their crowds cannot be replaced from a Leeds point of view.