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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Well yes actually , I do , ridiculous as you might suggest , it is , we have clubs that essentially have a hundred year history , and small but loyal fan bases , being replaced by clubs that haven't , ok change who for who , then , Batley,Keighley,white haven and Leigh into SL ?'" Right. So despite the fact that many of the clubs operate on a shoestring budget and play in tiny towns in front of sub-1,000 crowds, they are somehow more important because they have 'history', and even though that history has seen them get absolutely nowhere and they still play in tiny towns in front of sub-1,000 crowds, this means that the impact on them leaving the league would be equivalent to Wigan leaving Super League and being replaced by Rochdale.
FWIW, three of the ten CC1 clubs this season have a hundred year history. You're just talking absolute garbage as usual.
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| Just heard on 5live that Northampton will be admitted to the Championships next year.
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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"Right. So despite the fact that many of the clubs operate on a shoestring budget and play in tiny towns in front of sub-1,000 crowds, they are somehow more important because they have 'history', and even though that history has seen them get absolutely nowhere and they still play in tiny towns in front of sub-1,000 crowds, this means that the impact on them leaving the league would be equivalent to Wigan leaving Super League and being replaced by Rochdale.

FWIW, three of the ten CC1 clubs this season have a hundred year history. You're just talking absolute garbage as usual.'"
No, I would say he is about spot on.
All the RFL has done is to sort out the lack of fixtures in the Championship at the expense of clubs in CC1 by lumping four CC1 teams straight into the Championship.
The existing CC1 teams who don’t make the cut will be left in what amounts to an amateur league travelling to all four corners of the country with the added benefit of zero away support at their home games.
How many teams will be promoted/relegated in the following seasons after the cut? This could be oblivion for the CC1 teams who don’t make it into the Championship next year.
It’s fair enough promoting teams to the CC1 but four in one go will devalue the competition significantly as the replacements probably won’t be a patch on the promoted teams due to a lack of experienced RL players in their local area.
All this is is a backdoor way of getting rid of the unfortunate CC1 clubs who miss out next year.
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| Quote Rinkadink="Rinkadink" Promoting more clubs into a higher division at the expense of none is hardly a bad thing, is it?'"
The point was that it wouldn't be at the expense of none, it would be at the expense of the lower league who lost the four 'traditional' clubs and got in return four 'expansion' clubs. It is open to debate whether this would be good or bad for the lower league. They lose some local derbies and are faced with longer distances to travel to games but gain a new group of opponents and new fans to the game.
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| Starbug in negative comment shocker.
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| Quote rupert bear="rupert bear"No, I would say he is about spot on.
All the RFL has done is to sort out the lack of fixtures in the Championship at the expense of clubs in CC1 by lumping four CC1 teams straight into the Championship.
The existing CC1 teams who don’t make the cut will be left in what amounts to an amateur league travelling to all four corners of the country with the added benefit of zero away support at their home games.
How many teams will be promoted/relegated in the following seasons after the cut? This could be oblivion for the CC1 teams who don’t make it into the Championship next year.
It’s fair enough promoting teams to the CC1 but four in one go will devalue the competition significantly as the replacements probably won’t be a patch on the promoted teams due to a lack of experienced RL players in their local area.
All this is is a backdoor way of getting rid of the unfortunate CC1 clubs who miss out next year.'"
These conspiracy theories just get better! By expanding the CC1, the RFL are really means they're trying to shrink it! Fantastic stuff.
It's funny how a lot of these lower league 'fans' are complaining about clubs being relegated to "oblivion" because the clubs in it will have small crowds, next to no away support, etc. but are happy to continue moaning about the lack of P&R between SL and the Championship, where being relegated is definitely closer to oblivion: having to shed the vast majority of your staff, play in crowds 30% of what you've been in, with virtually no away support in comparison, TV funding cut, exposure cut significantly.
Quite frankly it's hilarious the hypocrisy of the people that champion this and disapprove of something less significant.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"These conspiracy theories just get better! By expanding the CC1, the RFL are really means they're trying to shrink it! Fantastic stuff.
It's funny how a lot of these lower league 'fans' are complaining about clubs being relegated to "oblivion" because the clubs in it will have small crowds, next to no away support, etc. but are happy to continue moaning about the lack of P&R between SL and the Championship, where being relegated is definitely closer to oblivion: having to shed the vast majority of your staff, play in crowds 30% of what you've been in, with virtually no away support in comparison, TV funding cut, exposure cut significantly.
Quite frankly it's hilarious the hypocrisy of the people that champion this and disapprove of something less significant.'"
I haven't moaned about P&R from SL because it does not concern me or my club. What does concern me is almost half of the clubs in our league being removed and replaced with clubs of a lower standard, less support and far more travelling time and expense. CC1 will have some long journeys this season but the season after it will be crazy. Starbug is correct in pointing out that if four SL clubs were removed and replaced with the top four CC clubs everyone would be up in arms. What gets up my nose is the fact that people supporting SL clubs come on here telling supporters of championship clubs what their teams and leagues should and should not be doing.
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Good luck to them I say and fair play to the RFL. Fans didn't like teams being shoved straight into Super League, so this is the common sense way of expansion. Lower risk, more thought, less aggressive and a slower more long term process.
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Good luck to them I say and fair play to the RFL. Fans didn't like teams being shoved straight into Super League, so this is the common sense way of expansion. Lower risk, more thought, less aggressive and a slower more long term process.
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| The away support argument just doesn't work for me. How many away fans do clubs in CC1 bring at the moment? I would guess the majority is already under 100 (I know next year there are three teams in the north west so that should see growth in away support in those games) but on the whole it wont make much difference
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| Quote Northampton will also benefit from a link up with Super League club Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, who will share their Rugby League expertise and best practice with the newcomers'"
Looks like they'll be going bankrupt, playing in a dump of a stadium and pootling around in the bottom half of the league and pretending everything is fine and dandy then!
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| PS, good on them and the RFL for going about things the right way!
Good luck!
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