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| That said, a few shoulder charging knock outs of old from Morley next weekend please, followed by a brawl or two from Peacock.
Or just a win 
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| Luke is a cracking player but was more intent on cheap shots than concentrating on winning the game
He's a liability
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| Lost all respect I had for NZ last night. Nothing but thugs looking to start a fight. The likes of Luke (should be banned for life), Jeremy Smith, Adam Blair, Manu, Hargreaves... I just kept thinking to myself "Look at the scoreboard you mugs". We won, your off home on your long trip knowing you could only beat a semi-professional Welsh team.
And as for Benji Marshall, drop the tough guy act - we know your softer than a soggy loaf so dont pretend your a big man.
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| He's a liability'"
he will be targeted relentlessly next season as you rightly say a liability.
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| Quote Kernel="Kernel"Lost all respect I had for NZ last night. Nothing but thugs looking to start a fight. The likes of Luke (should be banned for life), Jeremy Smith, Adam Blair, Manu, Hargreaves... I just kept thinking to myself "Look at the scoreboard you mugs". We won, your off home on your long trip knowing you could only beat a semi-professional Welsh team.
And as for Benji Marshall, drop the tough guy act - we know your softer than a soggy loaf so dont pretend your a big man.'"
I lost all respect fror NZ at the beginning of the tournament as all they have looked like they wanted to do was slow the game down instead of playing.
IMHO i'd say that this NZ team is the dirtiest team i have ever seen.
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| What about Smiths elbow to the grounded players jaw(Tomkin's I believe) shocking- Only one intent and that was to maim-Coward
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| As alot of people have mentioned, this was a very dirty NZ team, with some who only had the intent to injure English players. There were a few incidents that could and should have resulted in at least a yellow card. The amount of messing around at the ruck, cheap shots in tackle and thats before we get to the hit on Tomkins and Lukes cheap effort on Chase. The worst thing about those two was the obvious intent. It seemed to me that some NZ where only interested in a fight tonight.
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| What always gets me in incidences like this is the actions of the officials. The ref clearly told Luke (can't remember in the Smith one) what he had done and told him he had clearly set out to injure the player in question. If it's that 'clear' why simply just put it on report?
It's an old one (and slightly academic due to us winning) but what benefit will having the incident put on report be to England - the team who was sinned against?
If Chase had gone off injured, we would have been without a first choice player but NZ would still have their full complement.
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| Quote Redchemic="Redchemic"If Chase had gone off injured, we would have been without a first choice player but NZ would still have their full complement.'"
Thats what I hate most about the on report. Whats more frustrating is you see players get binned or sent off for less than those two incidents.
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| N.Z really let them selves down last night in the way they played.
Thought Kearney gave an honest account of the game, saying England out played them and the Kiwis discipline was very poor.
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| Quote Bondi_Warrior="Bondi_Warrior"Thats what I hate most about the on report. Whats more frustrating is you see players get binned or sent off for less than those two incidents.'"
It's a cop out mate. Refs in the past like Thompson, Holdsworth & relatively lately Smith (Russell) would've had the cojones to wave the red for cheapshots like those.
They would have let the teams have a bit of biff but wouldn't stand for cowardly acts like we saw last night.
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| I know we won the game but i am pretty pee'd of that our big lads never gave any fight back.
Peacock, Morley, Westwood, Carvell are the guys who should have busted a few Kiwis in response. I know we did the right thing and kept to the game plan and therefore won the moral victory, but Luke and Smith should have been made to bleed for $hit housing.
In times gone by we would have downed tools and let the opposition team know that it wont be tolerated, GB/Eng have very rarely been out muscled in a scuffle. With the game won it should have been open season on a Kiwis head.
Also i dont know who Benji was trying to kid with this "hard man" act he was into last night. Comical from a complete wuss.
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