This illiusion of tomkins being crap internationally is nothing but bull being made up of fans who decided they dont like him running rings around there best players. look at billy slater he hardly makes these amazing runs at international level every time he plays and hes playing in alot better set up,,, cant remember what game it was but sam had lockyer in hes pocket all game at the dw and skinned him on a few aswell.

If you truely believe sam isnt if not the best player in the england set up well you might aswell give up trying to understand rugby league.. your like this ref at widnes st marries who told him to shut up as he knows nothing about rugby league obvs not knowing who he was at the time (just started playing regularly for wigan at the time)

Tomkins has been nothing more than average in the few games he's played for England so far. He's only had 2 full seasons and he'll ge better, but so far he's not been close to living up to the hype bestowed upon him, and to compare him to Slater at this stage is laughable, Slater is arguably the best FB of all time and has torn England apart on many ocasion . He's not Englands best player either. Englands best player is out injured.

I think it was hes first full season at wigan and they was playing at DW, he stepped lockyer 3 or 4 times and wrapped him up on a few as it was 6v6 then as he wasn't playing fullback. i think billy slater is immense and i support the storm as my NRL team as they have strong connection to wigan just as i'll be watching the bunnies alot more next season as madge is there coach, i wasn't making a comparision between the two what i was stating is that you cant expect him to go on these jinking runs and beat everybody all the time just as billy slater doesn't at international level and he makes some huge mistakes also,,, but to call tomkins poor is just laughable. Because so many fans dislike him they are constantly looking for negatives to try and make them selfs believe he isn't good. England should feel lucky to have him because whos the alternates?

I said it was arguable. Certainly not many better,

minchello in hes prime wasn't error prone and radlinksi,, But slater is the best full back right now with out a doubt.

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Minichello's prime lasted what? 2-3 years? He spent most of his test career on the wing. As for Rad-f-in-linski being better than Slater, that is just about the most ridiculous statement ever made on here. You'll be telling me Shaun Edwards was better than Thurston next.

Slater on one leg is better than Radlinski ever was.

I wish a had a quid for every time I've heard or read someone claim to have been at that final, I reckon I'd have almost a million pounds by now.