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Quote: suttonrobin "I think its time for the entire rugby league nation to push for it now. Its as plain as day and staring us right in the face, but no one has the balls to push it through. A draw against England last year, a very good effort today and in the nines shows they are competitive. The talent base is huge and I would be sure they would need a maximum of 5 oversees to help start them rolling. I suppose stadia would be an issue, but coulnt they use Carlisle`s Bruntun Park untill they could plan a new one. Attendances would be in the 5-6k by my reckoning.
Maybe Worky,Haven and Barrow fans would feel against, but in all honestly an app by there own respective clubs would fall short, but they could still operate,acting as feeder (hate that word!) to the S.L team.
What are your thoughts guys.'"


It makes as much sense and is as likely as FC & KR combining

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Ah the old Cumbria merger thread. Usually started by those not from Cumbria. I think theres one knocking around on TRL right now too.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Barrows not in Cumbria is it? .'"
Jesus this Irritates me. As a Barrow lad playing amateur RL you do not get the opportunity to represent Lancashire. Only Cumbria. I am from Barrow, I am a Cumbrian. Fck what your maps say. Fck what the dinosaurs with this is Lancashire stickers on their doors think. Cumbrian and proud, like many other South Cumbrian's

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Quote: Odem "The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.

A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.'"


Barrows in Lancashire and is way too far away from Haven and Worky for a merger with them to work. Look at the thousands of Carlisle fans that watch Barrow.

You're right about the merger between the two sports clubs though. I posted a similar thing on their forum viewtopic.php?f=55&t=487204

Sell the stadium that's least profitable, both move into the same ground and share the bills and overheads 50/50.
Quote: Odem "The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.

A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.'"


Barrows in Lancashire and is way too far away from Haven and Worky for a merger with them to work. Look at the thousands of Carlisle fans that watch Barrow.

You're right about the merger between the two sports clubs though. I posted a similar thing on their forum viewtopic.php?f=55&t=487204

Sell the stadium that's least profitable, both move into the same ground and share the bills and overheads 50/50.


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Quote: jonny the leyther "Barrows in Lancashire '"
no it isnt. are you blind or stupid.

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Nice.

I stand corrected.

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Quote: Odem "I don't see the benefits they would bring to the league when they are so close to other super league clubs. I would rather see a cumbrian team for a wider spread league. They havn't had a super league team for years and I am sure we are losing out on plenty of potential.

My true opinion is that I would like to see a smaller league of around 10 teams... however this is about a cumbrian team. All I stated was that with a new stadium I think they could be just as good for the league as any other team.

Your usual argumentative nature and desire for Leigh to get noticed has got in the way...'"


Losing what potential ? , you mean players , as I said read Derwents post earlier , as for stadiums , read my posts on the York stadium thread , unless one of the clubs could afford the 12/15 million to build one they owned then it wouldn't ever produce the revenue needed , it will never happen

You stated that a club could get more fans in SL than Quins and Crusaders , as if in some way that makes them a viable SL club , as I said Leigh,Fax,and Fev could all achieve that , does that make any of those viable franchisable SL clubs ? No it doesn't and a nice council stadium and 4,000 fans wouldn't make Barrow,haven or Town one either

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Quote: Starbug "Losing what potential ? , you mean players , as I said read Derwents post earlier , as for stadiums , read my posts on the York stadium thread , unless one of the clubs could afford the 12/15 million to build one they owned then it wouldn't ever produce the revenue needed , it will never happen

You stated that a club could get more fans in SL than Quins and Crusaders , as if in some way that makes them a viable SL club , as I said Leigh,Fax,and Fev could all achieve that , does that make any of those viable franchisable SL clubs ? No it doesn't and a nice council stadium and 4,000 fans wouldn't make Barrow,haven or Town one either'"


Losing the potential for players and fans, young kids picking up the game.

I stated that they could get more fans but I DID NOT make out it would make them viable, YOU MADE THAT UP YOURSELF.

What I actually said was I believe a 10 team super league would be the way to go. Also when measuring teams outside the top flight, they should be measured against the lesser teams in the top flight, that is their current benchmark unfortunatly.

You would disagree, argue and cry even if someone said your RLFANS name was starbug, you are just that guy.

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Quote: Odem "Losing the potential for players and fans, young kids picking up the game.

I stated that they could get more fans but I DID NOT make out it would make them viable, YOU MADE THAT UP YOURSELF.

What I actually said was I believe a 10 team super league would be the way to go. Also when measuring teams outside the top flight, they should be measured against the lesser teams in the top flight, that is their current benchmark unfortunatly.

You would disagree, argue and cry even if someone said your RLFANS name was starbug, you are just that guy.'"


Considering we currently don't have a Cumbrian club in the top 24 British RL clubs , it's highly unlikely we will ever have one in a 10 team top tier , so the argument is irrelevant , it won't happen , ever

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Starbug "Considering we currently don't have a Cumbrian club in the top 24 British RL clubs , it's highly unlikely we will ever have one in a 10 team top tier , so the argument is irrelevant , it won't happen , ever'"


I agree. But if we are talking in terms of a top 14 as we have at the moment... with a new stadium I think Barrow could offer just as much as many teams in super league, maybe more.

Realistically we only have Wigan, Warrington, St Helens, Leeds and Hull FC who only really justify the name 'super'.

Huddersfield, Hull KR, Catalans, Bradford are almost there, hopefully we will see an improvement over the next few years.

The thing that annoys me about a 14 team league with a franchise system is that there is no competition to get into the league, we all knew for sure it would be Widnes this time, thats boring and makes the system useless IMO.

A ten team league would make the contest for promotion very interesting. We would have 5 or 6 teams with a genuine chance. This competition would force the clubs to improve every aspect of the club rather than getting away with bare minimum or faking a new stadium design.

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No region has got a god given right to have a team in the SL, if they want it badly enough the clubs involved need to start getting their act together on and off the pitch (supported in large enough numbers by the fans)

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Think the only place with a smidgeon of a chance of being able to host SL in Cumbria is Carlisle, and there just isn't the interest up there. Carlisle itself isn't even that big.

The population is just way too spread out.

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Anyone noticed that Cumbria is a huge, but sply populated area? Wikipedia cites it as having "the second lowest population density among English counties."

A lot of people spread over a large area - doesn't sound like a recipe for a sustainable SL club to me, even if all the clubs agreed to merge.

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Quote: Michael_Ward "Anyone noticed that Cumbria is a huge, but sply populated area? Wikipedia cites it as having "the second lowest population density among English counties."
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Yesterday's BARLA County Championship results :-

U17 - Cumbria 22 v Yorkshire 20
U19 - Cumbria 56 v Yorkshire 14
Open Age - Cumbria 34 v Yorkshire 22

Not bad for a small population......

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