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| Quote wigan_rlfc="wigan_rlfc"That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.'"
Being reckless as to whether you're fingers are in his eyes and making a pulling motion, isnt that much better than deliberately putting your fingers in his eyes and making a pulling motion.
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| Quote The Lizard="The Lizard"4-8 Games is not a massive ban, Anything less than the maximum 8 matches is a disgrace.
[uAnybody involved with the amateur game knows that gouging is a big no no, the guideline for the ban there is sine die (banned for life)[/u'"
I know a player who was sine die for gouging and rightly so.....not sure why there should be any difference for professionals in fact it could be argued they should know better and act as role models for the game.
Now I love a bit of biff in the game but Hock is a cheap shot thug, gouged then punched as the player was getting up...Dirty scum bag 8 matches is not enough 8 years would be better!
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| Quote The Lizard="The Lizard"4-8 Games is not a massive ban, Anything less than the maximum 8 matches is a disgrace.
Anybody involved with the amateur game knows that gouging is a big no no, the guideline for the ban there is sine die (banned for life)'"
The amateur game has the same zero tollerance on man-handling the officials, and Hock got away with that one.
No matter who the player is, or who he plays for, or even how deliberate his actions, an example must be made. The last thing we want is to get into a situation where more eye contact is seen because somebody got off lightly.
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| Quote wigan_rlfc="wigan_rlfc"That's what I thought. I looks like he was trying to give him a bit of a facial, not delikberatley targeting the eyes.'"
Rubbish, just watched it again. You can see his grubby fingers searching for the eye sockets to get leverage.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Rubbish, just watched it again. You can see his grubby fingers searching for the eye sockets to get leverage.'"
Its like CSI Wilderspool on here
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| The key question is was Hock deliberately trying to place his fingers into Harrison’s eyes to do damage? My feeling is that he was pulling at his face rather than gauging
Was it dirty, stupid, reckless and dangerous – absolutely. He should get a top end ban of 6-8 games. But that action is different to somebody deliberately pushing his fingers into somebody’s eyes in order to do serious damage
Maybe I’m being naive and just cannot accept that anybody would deliberately try to gouge an opponent (I’m well aware it happens of course)
If he did deliberately gouge Harrison I would have no hesitation in banning him for life... a far more serious offence than taking a recreational drug in my opinion
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"The key question is was Hock deliberately trying to place his fingers into Harrison’s eyes to do damage? My feeling is that he was pulling at his face rather than gauging
Was it dirty, stupid, reckless and dangerous – absolutely. He should get a top end ban of 6-8 games. But that action is different to somebody deliberately pushing his fingers into somebody’s eyes in order to do serious damage
Maybe I’m being naive and just cannot accept that anybody would deliberately try to gouge an opponent (I’m well aware it happens of course)
If he did deliberately gouge Harrison I would have no hesitation in banning him for life... a far more serious offence than taking a recreational drug in my opinion'"
Don't come on here talking utter sense. The Clampetts will be waving their pitchforks again.
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| Howell got 6 for biting, it should be considerable more, we'll see.
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"
Maybe I’m being naive and just cannot accept that anybody would deliberately try to gouge an opponent (I’m well aware it happens of course)
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I couldn't believe that a professional Rugby League player would be stupid enough to take cocaine the day before a game. Gareth Hock showed be different but I know what you mean.
6-8 games is enough. It's getting on for 1/3 of a regular season if he gets the harsher ban.
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| I'd give him 8. There are doubts that it was a premeditated attack, but everyone has eyes on the front of their heads and players have a responsibilty to fellow players. Big black mark on his disciplinary sheet aswell for consideration during any future visits to the disciplinary board.
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| 8 matches for gouging, plus one for striking (because gouging wasn't enough for Mr Hock)
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| Why do people think that Hock should get 8 games when, as I've already posted on this thread, another player was found guilty of the same offence last season and received a 4 match ban ?
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