What attendance figures do the pie u 20 s get ? And how much is it to get in ?

So you'd rather pay a tenner to watch your team play the Cas u 20 s , than play a current Championship side like Rochdale or Swinton ?

If they provide a better game to watch, then absolutely.

The admission is £4 (or free on your season ticket) and the attendances probably match most Championship 1 figures. Hard to tell really because they don't announce the crowds. The Under 20s Grand Final got 2,501 at DW Stadium in 2009.

I think your idea is good in theory, but I’m not sure if it will be in practice. As I’ve said on a previous post, I think that we need to make the heartlands stronger by investing in defunct and failing clubs instead of propping up the championship with academy teams from the super league.

Finally Saddened makes a good point about chucking the likes of Salford, Crusaders and Wakefield in there with them. The fact that we have mediocre teams in the top league says more about the health of rugby league if anything and this won’t make it any better IMO. It’ll just see the clubs with the best academy teams getting stronger, whilst the rest get weaker.

This idea is along the right lines IMO, but wouldnt work.

A couple of obvious problems would be firstly the movement between the two leagues would become a mess. Under this proposal we could theoretically have the team who finished 7th being promoted and the teams who finish 5th, 6th relegated really wouldnt make any sense for that to happen.

Also, you cant be throwing a pack of U20's up against a pack of experienced pro's. They would get battered and it would likely damage their development.

Also, I cant see it being easy to sell your club if your firsts are getting beaten by an u20's side.

I think the answer is more obvious and closer to continental football option.

Firstly we introduce more clubs to championship/1 level. We need to be looking at having 30-40 clubs in these lower tiers.

Secondly we give SL clubs 'feeder clubs'. Each of our SL clubs has 2/3 lower level clubs who are their feeder clubs, there are no restrictions on movements between these clubs, they can share facilities, coaches, and any players freely.

If a club so chooses it can decide not to be a 'feeder club' if it feels its independence or prospect for a future franchise would be damaged.

Its should be pretty simple, get rid of U20's/reserves and use the lower league sides to blood the very best youngsters by having them playing with and against experienced pros without the pressure and physicality of SL.

Players get experience, clubs get players, everybody wins.

Do you go ? , home and away ? , and if it was a tenner instead of 4 quid , or free would you go ?

The main issue with this idea is that we'd have open age teams playing against what essentially are junior teams, which is never a good thing from any perspective. For this to work it would need NRL-style reserve teams, which sort of defeats the object.

Good. That'll make for a stronger Super League and a better test side that might actually be able to compete with Australia and New Zealand. We haven't done that for the past 4 years or so at all and that's because the youth system has been rotten.

It won't necessarily make lower sides weaker either because all those kids in the "best academy sides" as you put it are not all going to earn first team places at those best clubs. A lot of them are going to end up signing for the lower clubs, meaning they improve and thus meaning a bigger pool of talent to choose from.

Hang on a minute ! , when I argued against University teams playing in the Challenge cup for the very same reason , you argued against me , make your bloody mind up ?

I've never advocated senior players playing against a bunch of juniors.

Well I do hope that all this leads to something positive. But I still don’t think that the idea that’s been touted about on twitter would work. But I wouldn’t be against it if it happened, I’d just embrace it like everything else I disagree with in this sport that’s not too bad at all!