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| After their 2008 World cup campaign no one could accuse any England players of taking performance enhancing drugs.
In a way it's a pity they didn't.
They were truly shocking.
Unless it was Keith Senior and Viagra
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "'Charlie'???
Thats an unfortunate name when you consider what young Mr Hock was putting up his nose'"
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Surely he’s learnt his lesson now?
I personally think that public awareness of what players have done wrong shouldn’t be coupled with bans that last for years and it should just be three month bans at most IMO.'"
yer he can come bk june 23rd
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Unless it was Keith Senior and Viagra'"
IIRC from the pictures of that rank bint he went with no wonder he had to take viagra, she was enough to make it bend inwards.
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| The ban length is dictated by WADA not the RFL. They bought into the system which is necessary to tap into government funds etc so their hands are tied.
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| Drugs are drugs, And when you are someone who kids look up to any kind of lapse with regards to taking them should be punished Harshly.
My 5 year old Worships the ground Anthony Thackeray walks on atm, and is at the stage where thats who he want's to be when he's older. Now if players in that position get caught out doing something like drugs then they should be dealt with in as strong a sense as possible. If not then our kids see them get away with it, and it becomes something almost acceptable to them.
Let hock rot for the rest of his ban, When he comes back he will either be a better person for it or he will revert back to his bad habits. If that happens it should result in a lifetime Ban.
And anyone in a Pro Sport caught taking drugs ( Either Performance enhancing or recreational ) should be punished at every opportunity and with the maximum ban possible. Its the only way to deter players and kids alike from following in their footsteps.
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| Quote: nick hkr "The drugs Gareth took are illegal drugs that had he been caught by the police he would have been dealt with a lot worse.
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no he would'nt.....he'd have got his hands slapped and probably a fine for possession
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| Punishing a sportsman who takes a recreational drug in the same way you punish a sportsman who takes a performance enhancing drugs makes absolutely zero sense.
Hock took an illegal drug and should have been reported to the relevant authorities, only a punishment of bringing the sport into disrepute should have to be considered.
Where's Gareth Raynor's two year ban? Chev Walker's? Ben Cockayne's? Ryan Bailey's? The list of people breaking the laws of the land is too long, it seems nonsensical that an offence that doesn't directly harm another human being and has no criminal penalty results in a two year ban from earning a living, but beating people up in the streets and ripping people off gets absolutely zero punishment from the sport.
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45452.jpg [i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in,
You take your Brownie out,
You put your Bennett in,
And you make it to the 8,
You do the Oki Chokie,
And you get knocked out,
Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t]
[quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
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| Quote: Gazemous "Punishing a sportsman who takes a recreational drug in the same way you punish a sportsman who takes a performance enhancing drugs makes absolutely zero sense.
Hock took an illegal drug and should have been reported to the relevant authorities, only a punishment of bringing the sport into disrepute should have to be considered.
Where's Gareth Raynor's two year ban? Chev Walker's? Ben Cockayne's? Ryan Bailey's? The list of people breaking the laws of the land is too long, it seems nonsensical that an offence that doesn't directly harm another human being and has no criminal penalty results in a two year ban from earning a living, but beating people up in the streets and ripping people off gets absolutely zero punishment from the sport.'"
Excellent point actually
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| Quote: nick hkr "The drugs Gareth took are illegal drugs that had he been caught by the police he would have been dealt with a lot worse.
On the other hand they are hardly performance enhancing, quite the opposite I should imagine so in this case should the ban reflect that?? With performance enhancing drugs the two year ban should allow the body to get back to what it was prior to drug use.
I think it is a tough one but if players think they will get away with taking any kind of substance that is against the rules or the law then more will do it. The other option is to stick to a two year banning order and have them do weekly tests (if affordable). Then at the end of the first year if they have helped the sport and have stayed off the drugs then reduce the ban by 6mths.'"
Whether or not they were performance enhancing, he was found to have taken a class A controlled substance. That, for me, is far more serious than somebody who has "taken a chance" with HgH.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Whether or not they were performance enhancing, he was found to have taken a class A controlled substance. That, for me, is far more serious than somebody who has "taken a chance" with HgH.'"
b*ll*xs....
one is cheating the sport the other is just cheating himself
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45452.jpg [i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in,
You take your Brownie out,
You put your Bennett in,
And you make it to the 8,
You do the Oki Chokie,
And you get knocked out,
Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t]
[quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
[quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t]
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Whether or not they were performance enhancing, he was found to have taken a class A controlled substance. That, for me, is far more serious than somebody who has "taken a chance" with HgH.'"
As a few people have already said HGH is classed as a 'performance enhancing drug' when you are a professional rugby league player.
Therefore taking it is classified as cheating.
Having a toot on a Friday night wont make you play rugby league any better... in fact if anything it can impair your performance.
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| he knew what would happen to him if caught, so he must take the punishment. its DRUGS what ever form he took it.
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| Quote: knickers "he knew what would happen to him if caught, so he must take the punishment. its DRUGS what ever form he took it.'"
So are many other things, but players don't get two year bans for taking Ibuprofen or having a pint do they?
I've no doubt that he knew the potential consequences of his actions, and I have no sympathy for that, but the rules make no sense and should be changed.
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| Quote: TonyGee "Drugs are drugs, And when you are someone who kids look up to any kind of lapse with regards to taking them should be punished Harshly.
My 5 year old Worships the ground Anthony Thackeray walks on atm, and is at the stage where thats who he want's to be when he's older. Now if players in that position get caught out doing something like drugs then they should be dealt with in as strong a sense as possible. If not then our kids see them get away with it, and it becomes something almost acceptable to them.
Let hock rot for the rest of his ban, When he comes back he will either be a better person for it or he will revert back to his bad habits. If that happens it should result in a lifetime Ban.
And anyone in a Pro Sport caught taking drugs ( Either Performance enhancing or recreational ) should be punished at every opportunity and with the maximum ban possible. Its the only way to deter players and kids alike from following in their footsteps.'"
Or we could move away from the currently illogical stance on drugs and make them legal instead.....
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